Pedals Vs. Rack Effects

Pedals Vs. Rack Effects


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Lucid_Lunatic

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I have always been a pedal type of guy. I have had a couple of rack mount multi processors and they were cool, but I hated having to shuffle through so many sounds to get where I wanted, plus not being able to change sounds during a song, like with a foot pedal. Is there any advantages that I am not aware of by using rack units?

I'm sticking a poll on this one so you guys can vote.
 
Re: Pedals Vs. Rack Effects

:lol:I would say Racks because they sound very good (especially modulations and reverb), but I admit I never own one and never palyed trough one.
I have been told that the standar rack for modulations are the Lexicon and alesis ones, still I like my pedals, they are more cheap and I dont need too much, but if I had the money and I needed a full pro rig I would go with racks.

but thats a teorical opinion because as I said I never played through one

PD: in other words ignore me :lol:
 
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Re: Pedals Vs. Rack Effects

Totally depends on the pedal vs the rack gear in question

A digitech stomp box vs a Axe-FX or Eventide unit is going to be no comparison for the rack gear

A dynacomp compressor pedal is going to do a totally different thing and sound quite different than a nice Avalon tube rack comp and you'd use them for different things

At the same time, a good quality stomp like like Analogman, FoxRox etc is going to sound way better at a given task than some mfx rack gear like a Prophecy etc


So its rather apples to oranges to grapefruit because they play totally different roles


Oh and don't forget theres stomps that are basically rack gear like the Eventide Time Factor pedal. Its rack in a pedal format so how do you classifiy that ?
 
Re: Pedals Vs. Rack Effects

I can't take sides here. Both have their place. Pedals are great, but the ability to set a rack by midi to do what it would take several stomps of the stomp to do is extremely convenient. I guess I'm not a purest either way.
 
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Again, I use both, but not at the same time. My rack gets used when I am doing guitar synth stuff, and the pedals for playing with the blues band.
 
Re: Pedals Vs. Rack Effects

I prefer pedals because of the ease of use. I've tried a rack setup and I just can't gel with them properly. I think ideally I'd like to edumacate myself with MIDI programming and the like and use a comination of both, as most pro players seem to do.
 
Re: Pedals Vs. Rack Effects

I hate my digital effects. I like analog. if u put analog pedals in ur rack then that is also an acceptable option imo.
 
Re: Pedals Vs. Rack Effects

Pedals are more fun to twist knobs and change order of effects. Even though I like complex stuff, a rack rig was always way beyond anything I was interested in.
 
Re: Pedals Vs. Rack Effects

I generally like rack stuff better. High quality, simple setup, MIDI control. I am not a heavey effects user, so one good quality unit does the trick for me. One button to change amp channels, amp loops, amp reverb, and effects unit settings. Simple, efficient, and sounds great.
 
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Pedals just seem more appealing as they're simpler and seem as if they require less maintenance and care.
 
Re: Pedals Vs. Rack Effects

Assuming we're not talking budget equipment, rack effects are generally higher quality than stomps.... particularly the delays and reverbs. They also have much deeper editing abilities allowing you to really tweek something to suit your tastes.

That said, rack units usually aren't that great for on the fly editing, unless you pre-thought out your on the fly edits by patching a parameter to an expression pedal or tap tempo switch.

The nice thing about pedals is that they're pretty easy to edit on the fly. I think they're better for your average dude who really doesn't need to delve into whether his delay has three equal volume repeats or three decending volume repeats.

Personally, I think racks are great if have your sound nailed down and you want quick and easy changes via midi. The settings are saved, so you don't have to worry about the knobs getting bumped, and with a midi footswitch you could have all your different clean, rhythm and lead tones at the tap of single buttons.

If, on the other hand you're like me and you're constantly f*cking with things they're probably not the right choice. From my experience, rack units were an excersize in frustration as I'm too indecisive to have that many options presented to me.... which is why I love the single dial concept of the Phase 90 so much as the speed either works or it doesn't.
 
Re: Pedals Vs. Rack Effects

You have to do your homework with a rack system, but there's no reason that they can't sound good. It's the same with a pedal system; your presets have to be there. If they're not, you're going to spend some time on your knees. That said, I've got both, and I really don't have a preference.
 
Re: Pedals Vs. Rack Effects

I have both rack units and pedals including a nice Lexicon reverb i scored off Ebay, guess it depends on your genre and the sound you wish to make. Make sense. Experiment and then experiment some more folks!
 
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I usually try to keep as few things as possible between my guitar and the amp. The only things I ever run before a preamp would be a wah or compressor, and I haven't used any kind of crunch/distortion pedal in over 10 years.

Because of that, all my delay/reverb/modulation effects live between the preamp/poweramp stages, which makes a rack box much easier to deal with. My most common rack effect is an old Boss GX700, which was never really meant to be placed in the effects loop like I've got it, but you can make it work pretty well with some tweaking. It basically has all the Boss stomp boxes built in with the same parameters, and you can change the order etc, plus it's all midi controllable.

At the peak I had about 5 or 6 stomp boxes going...I'm much happier now.
 
Re: Pedals Vs. Rack Effects

im a pedal guy but im sure rack units have their place if you are doing bigger gigs. I cant see the point in using them however unless you are doing some serious recording, or as afore mentioned, some serious gigs.
 
Re: Pedals Vs. Rack Effects

I like old rack stuff that only did about one thing, like a pedal.
I never cared much for the multi rack stuff....unless it was a timebased one that was wellmade...
Rigged up with a linemixer...the oldschool rack stuff will be more clear and will not affect your foundation if setup right...but very bulky...
Anyways looking at some pedal boards these days....I rather haul the rack around, those things do have wheels;)
 
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