Pickup advice for my PRS, Help needed!

prs_kamikaze

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Hello everyone. Looking for some pickup advice for my '92 PRS CE24 Alder body/Maple top.
I use a Engl Powerball head and cab. Looking for something with preferably Alinco V's in both, only because i have never enjoyed the sound of Ceramics when clean -but open to other peoples opinions on the matter. My previous guitar that I sold to get my current was a PRS singlecut with a Seymour Duncan custom (SH-5) and a Seymour Duncan Jazz (SH-2)(coil-tapped). I really loved the brutal distortion of the sh-5 for metal riffs and leads, it was perfect,but hated its clean. The sh-2 i thought lacked dynamics for the jazz tone i'm searching for, was ok for clean (didn't have the 'wow' factor), sounded to muddy when distorted, and had an alright strat tone when coil tapped(probably due to it alinco V i thought).
I'm tryin to decide between Prs pickups, seymour duncans or Dimarzio's.
I've played around with different Prs pickups also, thought the hfs combo or the Singlecut 7's combo both lacked clarity and had no real definition for what I was looking for. Thought the McCarty pickups were good but had more of a vintage tone than what i'm mainly after.
In regards to types of tones i'm after, the following trys to summerize
1) A humbucker for playing distorted chords with clarity on what the chords are. In the progressive metal direction of Opeth and Dream theater. Lots of chunk on power chords, but more importantly clarity on 3 or 4 note chords when playing with distortion. I've played around with a Seymour duncan full shred in a friends PRS, which is what mickael ackerfeldt from opeth uses and would perfer something similar but with more clarity.
2) A humbucker for playing leads with a warm mid range, sparkle and bright attack, mainly and primarily like Greg Howe's tone, but with a little aspect of John Petrucci(solo albums) tone.
I plan to split, mix and match the humbuckers with a 5-way and push-pull pot. In doing this I am wanting to achieve the following tones.
3) A humbucker that when split will produce a texas specials Steve ray vaughn strat sound with a bit of scott henderson in there too. This is another reason why I enjoy Alinco V's, when split they can get a strat sound but I haven't come across a ceramic which can do this as well.
4) A warm clean tone with plenty of mids, very little of that woofy bass and a bit of treble, but not to much to make it twangy.
5) Funky tone -the previous strat tone with some warmth to it.
6) Hollow body jazz tone
Strong and pronounced harmonics are also very important as well as solid dynamics.
The first 3 are my most important.

I've emailed the dimarzio guys this and they told me to get the AT-1 and Liquifire DP227, any thoughts on that recommendation?
Is there any PRS pickup that can fulfill this quota to some degree?
Any other recommendations?

Cheers for any help guys
 
Re: Pickup advice for my PRS, Help needed!

I think you're looking to get too many tones out of the same package.

You're not going to get a perfect clean from the bridge if you're using high output. That's what the neck is for. Go bridge for distortion, neck for cleans, and don't bother trying to blend them.

I'd seriously recommend two guitars. The PRS for some things, and maybe a Strat with a few different single coils for the rest.
 
Re: Pickup advice for my PRS, Help needed!

I realize its alot to ask from 2 humbuckers, but i'm just wanting to go into the direction of those tones for my main guitar. Like when I say i want a strat tone, i mean the straty-est tone i can get from a humbucker, i don't mean i want the sound of a 59 strat exactly. I mean when your recording, you can bring your arsenal of guitars and change for separate parts, but when your on stage you wanna get as close to all the sounds on your record you can with the few guitars that you bring with you i think. Like my original post said, I've had some success from duncans in the past but could never get a really good lead tone.
Anybody got any other opinions?
and should I stick with duncans, stay with the original prs pups category or move ship to dimarzios ?
 
Re: Pickup advice for my PRS, Help needed!

Since you didn't like the Jazz neck, the 59 neck would be my next choice. You did have experience with the Custom in the bridge though, which is perfect in Mahogany for tight aggressive metal. I'd go with that one again.

I don't have experience with Dimarzio's in Mahogany, but the ones I've tried in Swamp Ash sound great to me. I don't split or play clean, and I don't use a neck pickup, so I can't comment on that for you. ;) I haven't tried the Liquifire yet, but I heard a Dream Theater song last night off the new album, (I don't care for the keyboards or vocals), but Petrucci's rhythm tone sounded pretty good. The lead tone sounded kind of thin, but that could just be the way it was recorded. I've got his previous pickup, the D-Sonic, and that one sounds a little fuller to me. I'd also recommend Satriani's bridge pickups, Fred and Mo Joe. They can do really deep, aggressively tight rhythm. (Not a fan of Satriani either, by the way.)
 
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You're not going to get a perfect clean from the bridge if you're using high output. That's what the neck is for. Go bridge for distortion, neck for cleans, and don't bother trying to blend them.

Wow, I can't agree with that. There are very desirable clean sounds to be had from the bridge pickup and vice versa. The idea is to get a balanced set of pickups so that the bridge position output matches the neck output. Once that is in place the full gamut of tones a particular instrument is capable of is available both clean and dirty.

I use a CC/Alnico II Pro set in mine
 
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Wow, I can't agree with that. There are very desirable clean sounds to be had from the bridge pickup and vice versa. The idea is to get a balanced set of pickups so that the bridge position output matches the neck output. Once that is in place the full gamut of tones a particular instrument is capable of is available both clean and dirty.

I use a CC/Alnico II Pro set in mine

CC's not really a high output pickup, and what he's asking for is.
 
Re: Pickup advice for my PRS, Help needed!

duncan JB and pearly gates in the neck :) that will do the trick. Maybe the distortion, but I'd go with the JB, cause its a bit less output, more mids and a tighter low end, for my guitars, that is.
 
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How are you defining your terms? The CC would be considered high output by the vast majority.

I've had both the Custom and CC in a PRS style guitar. The CC couldn't keep up with the Custom in terms of "brutal sound", which is one of the things he's looking for. Since the Custom works for him, I'm telling him to keep it, but to forget about trying to get the perfect clean from it.
 
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I've had both the Custom and CC in a PRS style guitar. The CC couldn't keep up with the Custom in terms of "brutal sound", which is one of the things he's looking for. Since the Custom works for him, I'm telling him to keep it, but to forget about trying to get the perfect clean from it.

Your also telling him you can't get good clean from the bridge position which is not true either. If he wants flexibility the answer is to use lower gain pickups that are balanced and get the gain from the amp.
 
Re: Pickup advice for my PRS, Help needed!

WCR Godwood bridge ( A2 mag ) and darkburst neck ( A5 mag )... case closed :friday:

I have them in my own PRS CU22 and I've spent today playing and I just can't get over how perfectly they suit the guitar.
Jim suggested the A2 for the bridge and it's fantastic.
The splits just don't deserve to sound as good as they do.

I've just ordered a covered A2 Godwood for my Strat after today's enjoyment.
 
Re: Pickup advice for my PRS, Help needed!

Hey all, appreciate all the opinions guys. Just thought I'd mention... had a duncan jb before I had the custom. Thought the jb was a bit harsh sounding and was way happier with the custom, but overall I thought the custom was a very one sound pickup and wasn't very versatile. So maybe something with more mids and not a ceramic magnet will work to give a middle ground between versatility and brutality, but obviously i'm not to sure. I've played around with my mates quicksilver as well with the ed roman pickups, which I believe are based on the duncan custom custom pickups -correct me if I'm wrong, and thought they were a bit weak for metal and that you couldn't really get a chuga chuga sound from them and that there wasn't much clarity on distorted bar chords. cheers all for replies
 
Re: Pickup advice for my PRS, Help needed!

Was just playing round with my mates `92 prs custom 24 which has a full shred in the bridge. enjoyed the high end of the pickup, but would prefer more definition between the mids and lows. My opinion of it was that the mids and bottom kinda blended together, it didn't really have that intense chuga chuga bottom end like the custom. It did have that warm mid characteristic but it was hard to tell because of the whole bass-mids fusion that was happening.. but yer, just my opinion.
 
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