"Pickup Break-in" Any truth here??
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Bodeanicus
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Educate yourselves. Be warned that a lot of you don't want to hear this, but it's essential to dispelling the denial.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVmFlzksMCE
Educate yourselves. Be warned that a lot of you don't want to hear this, but it's essential to dispelling the denial.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVmFlzksMCE
GilmourD
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You could've just posted this and it would've said the same thing.
He's taking an overly simplified understanding of how things work, then overly simplifying it and leaving out most of the pertinent information, and basically going "herp, derp, derr herr durp" with a bunch of numbers on a white board.
The guy is basically Scot Grove Lite: No taste, more filling.
I've seen that video before.
You could've just posted this and it would've said the same thing.
He's taking an overly simplified understanding of how things work, then overly simplifying it and leaving out most of the pertinent information, and basically going "herp, derp, derr herr durp" with a bunch of numbers on a white board.
The guy is basically Scot Grove Lite: No taste, more filling.
treyhaislip
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On the extreme technical level, no two guitars could possibly be the same guitar as we are dealing with organic materials which, like snowflakes, no two pieces of Alder are the same, no cast steel/brass, wire, Maple, Rosewood, Magnet, etc.
I would beg to differ on the two being the same guitars as they have different pickups, different neck shape and radius (radii..? lol,) different quality of work, different quality of materials, different quality standards, different paint, etc...its not as simple as "bolt on neck and strat shape" so they are the same. Will both play notes and chords, yes–but that doesn't mean they are equal. I know lots of guitars that are bolt-on with a strat shape that play great while others are terrible. To you personally is the Masterbuilt worth the extra money–no, but to some it is. It is your preference to say that you don't think there is a difference. I would argue pick up a MIM and then a Masterbuilt (or vice versa) and tell me they are both the same. Do you honestly think that the same level of quality control is found in the mass produced MIM plants as the handmade custom shops?
I've played many MIM guitars that were hot rodded and upgraded. They can be made into very nice guitars. But I've yet to play one with all of the upgrades and mods that played and sounded like the high end US handcrafted guitars I've played and owned.
I once met a guitar player who said he had the best playing Alvarez that blew away any Martin he ever played. It was a nice guitar but the action was too high and the tone was too dark with very little harmonic response. Just because you think they are the same doesn't mean that they are nor does it make everyone else's experiences/opinions invalid.
On the extreme technical level, no two guitars could possibly be the same guitar as we are dealing with organic materials which, like snowflakes, no two pieces of Alder are the same, no cast steel/brass, wire, Maple, Rosewood, Magnet, etc.
I would beg to differ on the two being the same guitars as they have different pickups, different neck shape and radius (radii..? lol,) different quality of work, different quality of materials, different quality standards, different paint, etc...its not as simple as "bolt on neck and strat shape" so they are the same. Will both play notes and chords, yes–but that doesn't mean they are equal. I know lots of guitars that are bolt-on with a strat shape that play great while others are terrible. To you personally is the Masterbuilt worth the extra money–no, but to some it is. It is your preference to say that you don't think there is a difference. I would argue pick up a MIM and then a Masterbuilt (or vice versa) and tell me they are both the same. Do you honestly think that the same level of quality control is found in the mass produced MIM plants as the handmade custom shops?
I've played many MIM guitars that were hot rodded and upgraded. They can be made into very nice guitars. But I've yet to play one with all of the upgrades and mods that played and sounded like the high end US handcrafted guitars I've played and owned.
I once met a guitar player who said he had the best playing Alvarez that blew away any Martin he ever played. It was a nice guitar but the action was too high and the tone was too dark with very little harmonic response. Just because you think they are the same doesn't mean that they are nor does it make everyone else's experiences/opinions invalid.
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I actually watched that last night before you posted it. He makes a few good points but he is all over the place. Is the fender custom shop over priced? Probably. But that does not mean that a $499 MIM and a multi thousand dollar master built strat are built to the same standard. Saying so is just silly. Unless you've held both in your hands and visited both the MIM factory and the custom shop in California then any point you have is moot... because you have no actual experience... only opinions that are NOT based in fact or experience...
I actually watched that last night before you posted it. He makes a few good points but he is all over the place. Is the fender custom shop over priced? Probably. But that does not mean that a $499 MIM and a multi thousand dollar master built strat are built to the same standard. Saying so is just silly. Unless you've held both in your hands and visited both the MIM factory and the custom shop in California then any point you have is moot... because you have no actual experience... only opinions that are NOT based in fact or experience...
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Snake Aces
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Snake Aces
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ΛΛ Classic
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Somehow you seem to think that if a guitar is not 'magical' or made from some rare parts that there cannot be a difference. There are no magical parts worldwide, but there are sure as hell a wide variety of guitars that play a lot different to one another. Its clear you have never played such a guitar
I have made many custom guitars for myself, as well as having some pricepoint guitars too. They feel vastly different, my custom guitars have made me sell the pricepoint ones, none of them are made from unicorn poo either.
Somehow you seem to think that if a guitar is not 'magical' or made from some rare parts that there cannot be a difference. There are no magical parts worldwide, but there are sure as hell a wide variety of guitars that play a lot different to one another. Its clear you have never played such a guitar
I have made many custom guitars for myself, as well as having some pricepoint guitars too. They feel vastly different, my custom guitars have made me sell the pricepoint ones, none of them are made from unicorn poo either.
Re: "Pickup Break-in" Any truth here??
I feel so much better now.... All this time, I thought I was just a crappy player.. Now, I know its just that my pickups have gone bad over the years and make me sound bad.. Whew!
Also, in regards to Scott Grove.. years ago, I saw a couple of his vids and thought, this guy is on point. Apparently, he went down hill, cuz everything Ive seen more recently, wow.... Just bash fests..
I feel so much better now.... All this time, I thought I was just a crappy player.. Now, I know its just that my pickups have gone bad over the years and make me sound bad.. Whew!
Also, in regards to Scott Grove.. years ago, I saw a couple of his vids and thought, this guy is on point. Apparently, he went down hill, cuz everything Ive seen more recently, wow.... Just bash fests..
RayBarbeeMusic
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Re: "Pickup Break-in" Any truth here??
Absolutely. The fretwork on the MiM is, on average, better.
Absolutely. The fretwork on the MiM is, on average, better.
Archer250
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The fretwork isn't even the same; the number of frets usually isn't the same. That alone indicates a different guitar.
When you keep arguing your point even though you are objectively wrong (as you pointed out in your previous post how you think they're the same), it makes you look inane and dishonest. We might as well be debating the shape of the Earth and you would tell us that it's flat at this point.
Yeah. Denial is an ugly thing. When someone says that a multi-piece ghitar made from excess wood of American Standard and American Deluxe guitars are the same as a wood-selected guitar, it is stupid and disingenuous by itself.
The fretwork isn't even the same; the number of frets usually isn't the same. That alone indicates a different guitar.
When you keep arguing your point even though you are objectively wrong (as you pointed out in your previous post how you think they're the same), it makes you look inane and dishonest. We might as well be debating the shape of the Earth and you would tell us that it's flat at this point.
Snake Aces
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Archer250
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Nah. It's FAT. Most people get it wrong there, so don't worry.
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Funkfingers
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Ranters like that never do get to any worthwhile point. They confuse quantity with quality. They crave an audience.
Somebody should buy each of them a copy of Dan Roam's "The Back Of A Napkin". (Probably, the EXPANDED edition!)
Ranters like that never do get to any worthwhile point. They confuse quantity with quality. They crave an audience.
Somebody should buy each of them a copy of Dan Roam's "The Back Of A Napkin". (Probably, the EXPANDED edition!)
hydro
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this almost made me pee my britches laughing
thank you for that it made my day
this almost made me pee my britches laughing
thank you for that it made my day
beaubrummels
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Re: "Pickup Break-in" Any truth here??
I just stopped in to see what was decided. Somehow the titles got switched because this thread doesn't seem related to the topic. Refreshing to see even moderators are playing too.
The only pickup break-in I've ever heard of is after swapping magnets, but I've not done that myself to have that experience.
I just stopped in to see what was decided. Somehow the titles got switched because this thread doesn't seem related to the topic. Refreshing to see even moderators are playing too.
The only pickup break-in I've ever heard of is after swapping magnets, but I've not done that myself to have that experience.
GilmourD
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Well, that's more "magnet settling" than "pickup break-in," isn't it?
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beaubrummels
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If you consider that a pickup would not function without a magnet, to me it's tantamount.
If you consider that a pickup would not function without a magnet, to me it's tantamount.
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