Pickup height screws too long...

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I have 2 choices: cut the pickup screws with a Dremel, or drill deeper channels in the body for the screws to fit. Drilling into the body is risky- too far and it goes through, although the right tool is probably a router and a jig, which I don't have. I can cut the screws down with a Dremel, but I also don't want to mess up the threads so badly they don't work and screw up the tabs on the pickup. So, what's the best choice, and how would you go about it? Assuming you don't have shorter scres, of course.
 
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i think you should cut the screws, and then apply bit of grinder or maybe even fine grit sand paper to smoothen the rough cut, till it screws in without striping the the threads in the pickup tab. the screw might be little coarse to screw in first few times but i dont that will hurt the tab much.
 
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I do it this way......screw them into the pickup base. Cut the screw to size with small bolt cutter or side nippers. Screw out, and in the process you have just cleaned the threads ready for any amount of installation/removals.
 
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Yeah just cut them with a hacksaw them dremel the end into a round nub.
 
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a vote to the hacksaw then dremel idea, just get a good c clamp
 
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Why? if you got a dremel just use the dremels cut off wheel.. why bother with the hack saw?
 
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but if you don't have the cut off wheel?


just kidding a bit, but i loose the cut off wheel some time ago..... so i can imagine somebody else having a dremel without a cutting wheel
 
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The BEST way to cut screws without deforming the threads is with a wire stripper that also has a screw cutter built-in...like this:

http://www.homedepot.com/s/wire%20stripper%2Fscrew%20cutter?NCNI-5

You just screw the screw into the correct threaded hole to the correct length, squeeze the handle to cut the screw, then unscrew it which removes any thread irregularities. Simple. Accurate. Cheaper than a Dremel.
 
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I've dremeled too-long screws before with absolutely no issues. If you have any of those carbide metal cutting discs, it's an easy job and they tend to knock off any burrs, so there's no worry of damage.
 
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Why? if you got a dremel just use the dremels cut off wheel.. why bother with the hack saw?

Seriously there is about ten ways you could do this and get the same results. I use the saw because i can start with a nice flat cut and its less work for the ''dremel'' then. I actually use my bench grinder after i saw not the dremel haha.
 
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Thanks guys! I did use a dremel with a cut off wheel, and then ground the end. Works great and took about 3 minutes.
 
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The BEST way to cut screws without deforming the threads is with a wire stripper that also has a screw cutter built-in...like this:

http://www.homedepot.com/s/wire%20stripper%2Fscrew%20cutter?NCNI-5

You just screw the screw into the correct threaded hole to the correct length, squeeze the handle to cut the screw, then unscrew it which removes any thread irregularities. Simple. Accurate. Cheaper than a Dremel.

This is in fact the easiest way to cut small bolts cleanly. However, SD pickup screws and most humbucker screws use a weird thread (#3-48 if I recall correctly) that is not usually on these cutters. Personally, I don't know why SD doesn't either sell online or just include shorter pickup screws to fit Fenders. FMIC is the largest guitar manufacturer in the world...wouldn't it make sense to include the screws to install pickups in these without all the "screwing around"? (excuse my pun, I couldn't help myself.)
 
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I've cut the screws with bench grinders and rounded the tip, cut using a slightly larger hole in cutters, then ground the end on a grinder, and used a dremel to cut/round the end. They all work, but none of those methods should be required. Also, the springs used are longer than the screws, which makes installing them a little tougher than it needs to be. Fender uses shorter screws, and the springs they provide are a little shorter than the screws so you don't have to try to start the threading with spring under compression. This is just common sense...

C'mon Seymour, give us some shorter screws, and shorter springs like fender provides. They are really cheap, like a penny a screw in bulk for stainless steel. We shouldn't have to mess around like this when paying $100 for a pickup when literally a nickel worth of screws and springs would avoid it. Talk about "a nickel holding up a dollar". Why not include both "gibson" and "fender" screws & springs in the pickup box. It really would cost very very little.
 
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I've cut the screws with bench grinders and rounded the tip, cut using a slightly larger hole in cutters, then ground the end on a grinder, and used a dremel to cut/round the end. They all work, but none of those methods should be required. Also, the springs used are longer than the screws, which makes installing them a little tougher than it needs to be. Fender uses shorter screws, and the springs they provide are a little shorter than the screws so you don't have to try to start the threading with spring under compression. This is just common sense...

C'mon Seymour, give us some shorter screws, and shorter springs like fender provides. They are really cheap, like a penny a screw in bulk for stainless steel. We shouldn't have to mess around like this when paying $100 for a pickup when literally a nickel worth of screws and springs would avoid it. Talk about "a nickel holding up a dollar". Why not include both "gibson" and "fender" screws & springs in the pickup box. It really would cost very very little.

Not everyone plays a fender... even among fender models not all models take the shorter screws...

If the springs are too short when you start to thread there might not be adequate pressure for adjustment... Even then is the force from a little spring so hard to overcome that is a huge impediment to your assembly skills?

Even then its easy enough if your so inclined to take your side cutters and trim the springs to whatever length you like...

would rather the hardware be long and able to be trimmed than too short and SOL.
 
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But until Seymour decides to provide them, if you do this frequently and don't want to mess around with springs that are too long (limiting adjustment range and making installation harder) and screws that are too long, you can buy them from Fender. They are just a lot more expensive than they need to be...

3/4" springs: Fender P/N 0050167049. Package of 12 is $8.39 shipped on ebay right now.
#3-48 x 13/16" Screws: Fender P/N 0050166049. Package of 12 is $7.75

I just bought a pack of each and it cost me $16 but now I have 12 screws and springs -- enough to mount 6 humbuckers.

You can also get 13/16" pickup height springs from StewMac - they are 8 for $3.52. Item #3350.
They have #3-48 screws also but only in 1-1/4", and if you just need these small items, their shipping and handling is a bit expensive.

Buying in Bulk, Seymour could provide those same screws and springs for a pickup for about a nickel, so I don't know why they don't do that on every humbucker. If profit margin is a concern, by all means mark the price up 15 cents so you can retain 200% profit on the extra screws and springs. (10c profit on 5c cost.)
 
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