Pickup help

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Your problems extend way beyond your pickups.

Save your money for a better amp.

I don't mean to sound callous or jerky... but seriously, a better amp will solve all of your current tone issues.


+1. Nope. +10 000

A cheap guitar through a cheap amp, with a Metal Zone... if you want to get a good tone out of this, :banghead:

I tried that myself. Get something like a hybrid amp, if I got you right, you have budget issues. A tube amp would be the shizz, but if you can't afford one, look for a hybrid combo amp.
 
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Dominus, would it be wise to keep the Starcaster and go ahead and replace all three and wait on a new guitar? I guess mine is the thinner one since it does have the Rock Band Fender logo.

Is it worth it to maybe spend a couple hundred on a new guitar? I've heard a lot of stocks aren't that great even on some better guitars. But if I could replace the pickups on a Starcaster and still have a great sound, I don't see the reason in buying a new guitar just yet.

Okay so JB is off my list. Is the Custom pretty versatile tonewise? Would you recommend it over the other humbuckers? What single coils would you use with it (such as Duncan, EMG, DiMarzio)? I apoligize for all the questions, I am just wanting to be sure I make the right decision.

I believe that the Rock Band one has HSH routing (at least the last one I took apart did), if the pickguard is SSH, I believe it has better single coils than most of the other low end Strats out there. (On par with the Mexican made Strats.) Take a look at the bottom of the pickups, if it looks like this:

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with the magnet split and the poles visible through the center, I'd try keeping the neck and middle stock for now. What you really need is a better bridge humbucker.

The Custom will get you some great tones, and isn't as picky about guitars as some other pickups can be. It'll work well in the bridge of your Starcaster.
 
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+1. Nope. +10 000

A cheap guitar through a cheap amp, with a Metal Zone... if you want to get a good tone out of this, :banghead:

I tried that myself. Get something like a hybrid amp, if I got you right, you have budget issues. A tube amp would be the shizz, but if you can't afford one, look for a hybrid combo amp.

If you can't get a good tone out of a Peavey Vypyr amp with a good bridge humbucker, there's something wrong with your playing.

If I can do it (and I have), anyone can.
 
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Awesome! Thanks a bunch man! The Custom is the Trembucker right? The magnet is not split on the single coils, but yeah they're not bad. Good for cleaner stuff. Would I be safe taking my guitar to guitar center to install it? (I could probably solder it myself, but I really don't want to risk damaging my guitar or something) I haven't heard much good about them doing it. The other thing was could you explain how to set the pickups back up? When I removed the pickguard, the springs moved and I can't keep the pickups and springs in place to put the pickguard back on.
 
Re: Pickup help

Awesome! Thanks a bunch man! The Custom is the Trembucker right? The magnet is not split on the single coils, but yeah they're not bad. Good for cleaner stuff. Would I be safe taking my guitar to guitar center to install it? (I could probably solder it myself, but I really don't want to risk damaging my guitar or something) I haven't heard much good about them doing it. The other thing was could you explain how to set the pickups back up? When I removed the pickguard, the springs moved and I can't keep the pickups and springs in place to put the pickguard back on.

Yes, you'll want the TB-5 Duncan Custom. (Not the SH-5.)

When you removed the pickguard, did you remove the screws holding the pickups in place? Those screws will be slightly longer. You'll need to put those back in before you mount the pickguard.

You'll also want to check the values of the pots. What you'll need to do is pull one of the volume or tone knobs off (if you don't care about a little bit of marking, you can use a pair of pliers, otherwise you'll want to see if you can get a piece of plastic that will fit under the knob and rock it back and forth as you turn the knob), then unscrew the nut and pop the pot through the pickguard and check the number on top. You're looking for 500, not 250.)

As for Guitar Center doing it.. I usually go the lazy route when I install pickups in my own guitars. Is your pickguard SSH or SSS? If it's SSS, you'll need to replace the pickguard anyway. I'd just move all the parts from the old pickguard to the new one, without cutting any wires.

Take the TB-5 and connect the red and white wires. (strip half an inch of the wire coating and twist them together and then electrical tape them together and then tape that to the rest of the wire.) Then strip the green wire and twist that along with the bare wire. Don't tape them, and strip about half an inch from the black wire.

Then, I'd trace the original bridge pickup wire (some have two wires, typically a white one going to the switch, the black one going to the pot) and cut that wire/those wires about halfway between the pickup and the switch and pots.

If it's a single wire coming from the pickup, you'll want to carefully strip that wire, giving you a bare wire which is wrapped around a white one. Strip half an inch from the white wire, and twist that with the Duncan black one, and electrical tape them. Then twist the Duncan green/bare combo with the bare and tape them.

If it's two wires coming from the pickup, twist the Duncan green/bare one with the wire going to the pot (usually the black one) and tape them, and the Duncan black wire with the one going to the switch (usually a white one) and tape them. Then put the pickguard back in the guitar.
 
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The pots are 500. I'll order the pickup pretty soon. Should I upgrade anything else while I'm at it?
 
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good luck! you prob can solder yourself, but mounting on the pickguard is a bigger pain than when you just unsxrew a rear plate. ive changed pickups about 9 times each on an Ibanez gio w pkguard- very strat like- and an epi sg. the sg is always easy, the gio leaves me swearing and ive made regretted nicks. be patient. btw, i dont remove sttings, i just use the whammy to get them out of way, or juat loosen em tons. what you get is an assembly connected by a wire that you turn over in awkward ways. youll kno what i mean when you come back on NGD w an ax that has a rear plate- so easy to change pickups, but you have to scooch wires thru the middle of wood.

has anybody sed if you need new pots for emgs? cuz theyre not worth it if u do. well, maybe

i had to get rid of the gio cuz it had no bass to give me unplugged so i traded for an Asian Charvel ( very dnky like). the starcaster may be a fine guitar, but strum it unplugged, then compare it to strumming epiphone lp studios or sgs unplugged- if you hear a chunk of low end resonating on the epis thats not on yr starcaster, then no matter what pickup you use, it may be starved for low end. my gio unplugged was like strumming a tennisracket with rubber bands. so def the custom or the invader. notice how hetfield uses a v or explorer- theyre just chunks of thick wood. now kirk DOES use strats, but i dunno how chunky he gets them. but thats my story- i had gotten a new amp and couldnt get the gio to sound right. so i tried 2 other gtrs and found out, it wasnt the amp, the gio was too lite.

also, the metallichunk owes alot to ratio of bass to mid. in other words ive dialed bass on 5 mid on 1, and also tried bass on 9 mid on 5, and got the same chunk w diff tone, cuz the bass was mid plus 4. so the ratio turned out be a constant

try not to let the attack come from high pitched distortion but more from the hitting of metal strings in getting their chunk- which just makes sense- kirk said as much in an interview that theyve been dialing in less dist and using the sound of the strings more. stainless steel picks are great for this but do bald yr strings. also kirk preaches a philosophy of all downstrokes for Masters. another thing you might like if u try one in the store is noise gate- i said that alrdy, sorry.
anyways, alot of guys here have been where u are and are pulling for ya. so dont steal yr moms car and hock it for a mesa II, ts9, and a gibson v. youll get there, and you are pickups are great place to start. \m/. (but not dirty fingers- def invaders, or custom)
 
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Thanks for the info Khriss. What would you recommend for noise canceling that doesn't cost much?
 
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