Pickup suggestions ?

[Jeffaroo]

I'm having a custom guitar made. Lp, single humbucker, single vol, single tone. I play all kinds of music. The idea started with the intention of throwing a JB in it. I'm starting to take a liking to slide guitar (dirty blues) now I'm starting to reconsider my pickup choice because I was told that slide is best on low output.

Any thoughts ? Whole lotta ? Pearly ?

 

[Demanic]

Re: Pickup suggestions ?

How about the 59/Custom?

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[gregory]

Re: Pickup suggestions ?

JB split to the inner slug coil will kill for slide guitar.

With that said, I'm thinking a JB/C2 hybrid with the Custom screw coil facing the bridge.

 

[Blille]

Re: Pickup suggestions ?

My vote is going for a p-rails. I love slide on P-90s and you get extra flexibility if you play all kinds of music.


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[jeremy]

Re: Pickup suggestions ?

you can play slide on damn near anything you have. not sure why slide with low output pups is better

 

[VinceT]

Re: Pickup suggestions ?

If I had to choose a PUP for a single HB guitar, it would be 59/Custom, or a P-Rails. So much tonal reach in those two.


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[Jeffaroo]

Re: Pickup suggestions ?

I'm not familiar with a jb other than reading & videos. Can a jb pull zeppelin tunes without shrill ? I'd like to pull some Jimmy, Jack white and slide out of this, as well as get on it from time to time. I keep going back and forth between pearly & jb's

 

[gregory]

Re: Pickup suggestions ?

I stand by what I said about the tone of a JB split and would put it up against any other coil in the list mentioned so far. The P-90 coil of a P-Rail will also do a great job; though I am not impressed with the sound of the the rail-half of the pickup, especially in the bridge position (YMMV).

That said, I would definitely not recommend a JB in a single-humbucker guitar. While shrill is not how I'd describe the JB, it is not what you want to play Zeppelin.

What I mentioned was a JB/Custom hybrid with an Alnico 2 (or possibly RCUOA5) magnet, which you would need to either make yourself or have someone make for you. What I should have also mentioned was that it was only a musing on my part. I've not heard one, but I'm betting it would be a pretty versatile pickup. You will get very useful tones splitting (or better yet: partial splitting) to either of the two coils (better than the coils of either the 59/Custom or the P-Rails, as a pair, IMO) and it may easily sound really good in parallel...for Zeppelin. I do plan on making one in the near future.

With that aside, the 59/Custom Hybrid and P-Rails are both very good choices and I would not argue against either.

 

[Jeffaroo]

Re: Pickup suggestions ?

What's your two cents on pearly gates ?

 

[KNUCKLHEAD]

Re: Pickup suggestions ?

you can play slide on damn near anything you have. not sure why slide with low output pups is better

Yea, me either ~ the old Fender Steel came with something like 15k ~ I think Keef uses one in Micawber for that reason ( Bridge ) specially when He said " Dirty Blues " ?

 

[Mincer]

Re: Pickup suggestions ?

How about the 59/Custom?

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For versatility, certainly. Also check out the P-Rails with a Triple Shot ring.

 

[Blille]

Re: Pickup suggestions ?

Yea, me either ~ the old Fender Steel came with something like 15k ~ I think Keef uses one in Micawber for that reason ( Bridge ) specially when He said " Dirty Blues " ?

It's not the first time I've heard this though. The point is that you lose some of the dynamics that are characteristic of slide playing.


"Slide guitar is so powerful, so expressive and so emotive, and to get the most out of the technique it really helps to use pickups skewed toward vintage output levels rather than modern higher gain pickups."
http://www.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/Features/en-us/Setting-Your-Guitar-Up-For-Slide.aspx

https://www.strat-talk.com/threads/...ty-low-output-pedal-and-lap-steel-why.363162/

It's not like here metal pickups are recommended: http://www.seymourduncan.com/blog/the-tone-garage/great-pickups-for-lapsteel-guitars

And well, the antiquity lap steel has a dcr of 9.


I think the point is not to recommend super low output pickups but rather anything in the "vintage output" area.


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[Jeffaroo]

Re: Pickup suggestions ?

For versatility, certainly. Also check out the P-Rails with a Triple Shot ring.

Tripple shot ring wouldn't do much with a p90. Unless I'm missing something

 

[jeremy]

Re: Pickup suggestions ?

i play a lot of slide and dont switch guitars for slide vs fretted playing. i go back and forth within the same song frequently too. i tend to like lower output pups for tone but that goes for all my playing but i also have a strat that has a trio of hot rails and that thing sounds fantastic for slide. i have a pearly gates set in a guitar too and that sounds great for slide. warren haynes played a pg in the bridge a lot in the 90's before he got his gibson signature guitars

 

[Darg1911]

Re: Pickup suggestions ?

Tripple shot ring wouldn't do much with a p90. Unless I'm missing something

P-rail is not just a P-90. It's a P-90 and single coil (hot rails coil). Both active and it's a humbucker. 3 pickups in one. http://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup/p-rails-bridge

 

[jeremy]

Re: Pickup suggestions ?

i have a prs se with a pair of prails and triple shots. its a very cool setup with a lot of good tones. i use the p90s most of the time but flip to series or parallel sometimes. dont use the rail coils all the much by themselves but i also have the neck pup flipped around so the rail is closer to the neck

 

[Jeffaroo]

Re: Pickup suggestions ?

Ooooh, I like this idea.
Spank, spank & a ass woop'n

 

[Aceman]

Re: Pickup suggestions ?

Whoever said slide w/ low output is an idiot. Don't talk to them anymore. I played the majority of my slide on a Custom Custom. Hardly low output. Sounded fantastic.

And I'm another vote for P-rails. Humbucker, signal, P-90's....cover a lot with that. Like, anything.

 

[AlexR]

Re: Pickup suggestions ?

^ You don't rate Derek Trucks then??

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: Pickup suggestions ?

I prefer Strat single coils for slide.

Humbuckers? The Custom Custom is high output in my book. But I can see where it would have a pleasant sound for slide because it lacks treble and has lots of midrange and that'll tend to mask a lot of noise if your slide technique is still being perfected.

For Allman Brothers type tone I'd want an alnico 2 PAF wound to not much more than 8K for the bridge pickup.

An Antiquity would probably sound killer in a single pickup slide guitar.

But a Seth Lover also sounds great and that's from personal experience because they are what I use in several of my other guitars and I do play slide on them sometimes.