Pickups for Les Paul Studio 2011

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rumy22 said:
Pearly gates was unsatisfying for both of us. We play similar kinds of music as you listed.
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That's 4 people on this thread not impressed by PG's. WLH's would seem to be the best bet.
 
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Guys, you all are wonderful. i wish i could thank each of you individually but then my post may end up like an Awards speech.

Chris, thanks for the ebay link. They ship worldwide too!

Rumy, Just when I was all set on WLH, you offer an option! LOL. let me check the sound samples of this Jb/Jazz set. i only checked the Vintage output pickups as there are so many to choose from and in the end the wood and construction of the guitar also plays such a significant role that the sound samples are merely rough guides.

Audio check, lovely stuff there. The PGs really sound nice on your guitar. Which version of LP is that? BTW the strat's sound comes largely from it's bolt on construction. A set neck will have a hard time sounding like a bolt on and vice versa. All we can do is make something that sorta sounds similar.

Beau I would be happy if my $900 used Studio (yes that's the price of a used Studio in India - a new one will cost you $2000) sounds like a good Signature T or Standard.

Ace, Blue, it really does not matter if Mr. Page used a Tele or a LP. He could have used a broom stick with some electrics on them and made good music, people at that level have magic in their fingers/hands. I once saw Slash play and he was doing things I can only dream about, similar with sports people. They are prodigiously talented and gifted. I was lucky to see John McEnroe win Wimbledon and he did things we mortals can merely fanaticise about. That is unless Ace is Mr. Frehley and Blueman is Bonamasa, then you can scratch everything I said above.

Thanks guys for taking time from your busy lives to help someone who is all alone in 'left field'.

oh, and any thoughts on that piezo option i was rambling about in my earlier posts?
 
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There's no magic surrounding successful musicians. They are men, not gods. Have you seen a god play music? Neither have I. If they can make things sound usable with their fingers, what's stopping you from doing the same?
 
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Navin said:
Rumy, Just when I was all set on WLH, you offer an option! LOL. let me check the sound samples of this Jb/Jazz set.
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JB's are a controversial PU here in mahogany; there's two threads going on now about that. Suffice it to say that there have been members posting here since before I joined about disappointing experiences with JB's in mahogany. Sometimes they work great but occasionally it's not pretty. In bright woods for '80's metal, there's few PU's better. For LP's, it can be a roll of the dice.

Being overseas, I don't want to see you with a PU you're not happy with.
 
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blueman335 said:
JB's are a controversial PU here in mahogany;.. For LP's, it can be a roll of the dice.
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Thanks Blue Man, I tend to agree. Even without giving them a listen besides they cant be split and they may be too hot. Back to WLH!

Archer, I was being a little dramatic but I believe each of us have our own talents and guys like Clapton, Page, Beck, Hendrix, Knopfler, Slash, etc. had maybe a little extra talent than the average 'Joe' when it came to the six string.

I just finished making a initial list of parts I would need (besides the pick ups).

Tronical Robot Tuners

Seymour Duncan triple shot (pair)

From Stew mac
Graphtec TUSQ XL nut
Truss Rod Cover - so I can screen print my last name on it and make it different.
Crème Binding
LR Braggs X bridge Bridge and Tailpiece
Stew Mac Free way Ultra Pickup Toggle switch
Alpha Speed knobs
Alpha Push Pull Pots
1/4" stereo phono jack
Some shielded wire and 0.015, 0.022, and 0.047uf orange drop caps

I still have work out how I can going to control the level of the peizo (if I go that route) which is why I am including both triple shots, push-pull pots and the Free way switch so I don't run out of switching options. I might not need to use all 3.

Oh BTW talking of Les Pauls the last of the Signature Ts are going...I'd have picked this but shipping to India would double the cost (yup with Shipping, Insurance, Import duties, Local taxes, etc.. we would be looking at $3500+).
http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-GIB-LPTAA-MIN-LIST
 
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But the JB *can* be split...

Oh well, the WLH set is better for your style, and your son might make it work for his.
 
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Navin said:
Good catch Archer, I think we were talking about the Antiquity set.

It says "Single Conductor Wire" on the link below
http://www.seymourduncan.com/2011products/antiquity-jb-jazz-set.php

Maybe you are referring to this version which does come with four-conductor hookup cable.
http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/humbucker/high-output/sh4_jb_model/
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Yeah, I'm referring to the normal version as opposed to the Ants. Sorry, I kinda skimmed the OP.
 
 
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Navin, I have your amp - a 1974 Marshall copy (2xel84) so I wish I had seen this thread earlier.

I can tell you that the pearly gates bridge through the 1974x at full tilt is the sound of rock and roll that I associate with led zeppelin and ac/dc. Lots of midrange and really excellent response. I can also tell you that the pearly gates sounds different at different volumes - at practice volumes it's just okay but at full tilt it really comes alive.

I can also tell you that I haven't tried the WLH so with how many people who prefer it I don't think you can go wrong if you choose the WLH set.

It comes down to this (IMO) - if you want more treble and upper midrange response, choose the pearly gates. If you want more low midrange, take the WLH.

Just IMO of course.


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One additional note - I have played a vintage hot PAF along the same lines as the WLH (59/custom with UOA5) and I prefer the pearly gates with the 1974x


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The real question is what do other people who share your taste like. And even then is about your ears.

For the Music you like, I think a pearly bridge would really nail it. That said, I'm sure WLH's will do the job (even never having played). I know 59's could do an admirable job as well.

For Zepp, obviously the 59/WLH
For AC/DC, I have found Pearlies to be better
For GnR…A2P's

There is usually ONE pickup used on any of your favorite things, and no pickup that can do them all.

That said….right amp and any of the PAF styles can do a reasonable to good job of all of them.
 
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blueman335 said:
Oh, you know better than that. 9 albums while the band was together and he was already using an LP on the 2nd album.
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Oh you know better than that. IF he recorded with a Les Paul, it wired up like freaking Mission Control with phase and splits on every pickup. And he often (read more than a Les Paul), multi tracked and/or used whatever guitar was appropriate for what he was doing.
 
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jimijames said:
Navin, I have your amp - a 1974 Marshall copy (2xel84) so I wish I had seen this thread earlier.

I can tell you that the pearly gates bridge through the 1974x at full tilt is the sound of rock and roll that I associate with led zeppelin and ac/dc.
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Thanks. There is a debate between my son and me - he wants WLH neck and PG bridge while I was looking at a WLH set.

That said, our practice amps are usually the smaller Studio 15 (6V6) and/or the Lead 12 - we live in a small shoe boxed size apartment like most everyone in a large city like Mumbai.

Aceman said:
For the Music you like, I think a pearly bridge would really nail it. That said, I'm sure WLH's will do the job (even never having played). I know 59's could do an admirable job as well.

For Zepp, obviously the 59/WLH
For AC/DC, I have found Pearlies to be better
For GnR…A2P's.
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Well we really need only one set.

Securb, is the Fishman preferred to the LR Baggs or Ghost systems? Thanks in advance.
 
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Navin said:
Securb, is the Fishman preferred to the LR Baggs or Ghost systems? Thanks in advance.
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I think it is a better product and a cleaner install. The sound is pure acoustic and it blends well with magnetic pickups. The amazing thing is it takes to effects well including overdrive. I know a lot of people think of piezos for purely acoustic sounds but they are robbing themselves of a great dynamic of these pickups not hitting them with dirt once in a while. I have an OEM Fishman in my Parker and an after market in my Iceman and I love them both. Here is a review I did on the PowerBridge.

http://www.tmrzoo.com/2009/5133/fis...s-on-review-happiness-and-the-pursuit-of-tone
 
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Securb said:
I think it is a better product and a cleaner install.
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Thanks Securb,

Someone on this thread said the same thing.
http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/custom-shop/198781-fishman-powerbridge.html

I am discussing the wiring schematic here and would love to hear your opinions too.
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?280588-Need-help-with-wiring-for-pickups

One reason I thought of LR Baggs was that StewMac carries it and I could order it with the rest of my guitar supplies. Currently I think only Musician's friend carries the Fishman Power bridge and for some reason one review there was very upset with the product to quote
"The LR Baggs unit was complete,in the box, and when the project was finished, there was a great improvement with the overall sound quality of the instrument....For the money, there is not any real appreciable gain in sound quality, so, my advice is to save your money" while another gave it 4/5 "I'd get the Fishman 'offboard' pedal - you get more tone control, rocker pedal volume control, no battery box (and no battery drain if guitar is left plugged in)"

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/fishman-powerbridge-pickup-for-les-paul
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/fishman-powerchip-preamp

Aceman said:
Well, that's one way to look at it. Another is that you need more guitars….
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LOL guys, you looking to get me and my son thrown out of the apartment?
 
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