Pickups for mahogany Tele???

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I didn't say it was only the wood that affected tone. Arius said it was only the pickups that mattered.

:chairfall

Embrace the science and the art​ that define guitar building.
 
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Don't worry about the wood. It makes no difference in a solid-body electric unless you intend to play it acoustically and not through an amplifier. The important things are the pickups and other electronics used, so don't limit yourself based on insignificant worries about what pickup matches well with what "tonewood." Liberate yourself from traditionalism and lore and embrace science.

I'm not in my 60s. Such myths are perpetuated largely by people who are, though. They didn't know any better when they were taught the mythology of "tonewoods," but younger guitarists have no excuse with the wealth of technical resources available on the internet.

right... thats why my swamp ash tele and alder tele sound totally different.
 
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Better still, try the -X version.

Fender has offered mahogany Teles before. Some had P90s, one model had Dyna-Sonics. This seems like a job for TV Jones…

…provided that the basic guitar is up to it.
 
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Nice introduction to the forum.

The downside is that you'll be spending your entire time here from now on trying to regain any credibility

I do not seek to be embraced by the regulars who would face ostracization by their peers should they publicly voice agreement with me. I seek to open the minds of those who have never questioned the ideas they've held so dear, these matters of blind, or deaf faith, as it were. Some will be regulars, most will be lurkers, but if you yourself are vulnerable or not, you must come to terms with the realization that souls will be won, occluding veils will be shed, and the old ways will perish with Pagan pantheons long past and mocked as if always ridiculous.

I wish I'd known this information about woods meaning nothing before I spent eight months of my life building a Les Paul from a solid block of Honduran mahogany that i'd been lovingly caring for for over 15 years. I could, and apparently should, have used that block of wood for firewood, and saved a lot of time and money by buying a ready-made plywood guitar. Actually, i already had guitars and didn't need another one, I just thought i should use that block to make an instrument because i thought it would sound good.

But just when you think you know something, an expert turns up to set you straight with the facts. In my case, the expert didn't arrive with the science until after i'd wasted all that time and money. Of course i now feel completely stupid, and i will face the barrage of disdain that i deserve for my stupidity.

Maybe now, in light of this new knowledge, we should contact all instrument makers and let them know that plywood will be just fine for all future instruments, thanks.

It is never too late to cast aside such trifles in favor of renewed focus on what truly counts in matters of life, and of tone. You will be welcomed and accepted among us in brotherly embrace, friend.
 
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I didn't say it was only the wood that affected tone. Arius said it was only the pickups that mattered.

:chairfall

Embrace the science and the art​ that define guitar building.

A fallacy. I did not say that. I said pickups and electronics are the most important things determining the tone of a guitar. Scale length and location of pickup routes is also important. Tonewood, or material, rather, is among the least significant so as to be of no consequence whatsoever to any expert's ear when testing objectively.

right... thats why my swamp ash tele and alder tele sound totally different.

I address such flawed anecdotal evidence in my signature and will allot such things no more of my time.
 
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We already have a Lt Kojak. You must be Stavros! :D
 
Re: Pickups for mahogany Tele???

Don't worry about the wood. It makes no difference in a solid-body electric unless you intend to play it acoustically and not through an amplifier. The important things are the pickups and other electronics used, so don't limit yourself based on insignificant worries about what pickup matches well with what "tonewood." Liberate yourself from traditionalism and lore and embrace science.

Totally depends on the guitar. I can hear little to no difference between my alder or mahogany PRS CE with the same pickups....but in many cases I will hear a huge difference between two LPs with the same pickups so it varies.

I thought of saving money and getting a different Tele but the thing I love about the Jim Root, is the 12" radius ebony fretboard.
 
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Totally depends on the guitar. I can hear little to no difference between my alder or mahogany PRS CE with the same pickups....but in many cases I will hear a huge difference between two LPs with the same pickups so it varies.

I thought of saving money and getting a different Tele but the thing I love about the Jim Root, is the 12" radius ebony fretboard.

Two LPs with more differences than just wood. The strings and their age, the pots of different resistance (even if they are nominally sold as 250k or 500k the tolerance is lax), the caps of varying capacitance, the resistors of varying resistance, 50s wiring vs modern wiring, the pickups of the same type with divergent DC resistance and output...
 
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The 85 is far richer and less compressed than the 81, and less harsh. It still, however, sounds like an active. I would suggest it simply doesn't compare to passives. It is black and white for most people as to which type of pickup one prefers. Blackouts, however, are a little less polarizing and are more accessible to the passively minded than EMGs.
 
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Where's Left Hand Strat when we need him? This thread totally needs a Godzilla facepalm.
 
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Where's Left Hand Strat when we need him? This thread totally needs a Godzilla facepalm.

Or perhaps an intelligent, thoughtful reply from one of the stalwarts of Tonewoodism?

No?

...Commence childish name-calling, sarcasm and meme-posting, then.
 
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... In the second graph, there were still differences but they were absolutely tiny. The defining shapes of the curves from when the guitar was mic'd had completely vanished.

Those tiny differences on a scope can become big differences to the human brain connected to a good set of ears. Not only can human ears be an acutely sensitive instrument but sometimes its the subtle things that make or break the tone. And you can not seperate attack, sustain, and decay from tone, and woods certainly have more than a tiny affect on that.
 
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Tonewood is irrelevant.

Said no guitar builder ever. Ever read any of Bob Taylor's articles:?:
 
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Arius, it's not about you being right or wrong. It's about you having an attitude, and your obvious trolling. While I think your underlying point is solid in some ways, it doesn't seem like making it is truly why you are here. IMO, you are overstating it zealously and condescendingly just to try to mess with people...all after just showing up. Nice introduction. You could be 100 percent right (though you definitely are not), and we'd still think you are being a jerk. No matter what kind of good or bad points you may have, at the very least, have the manners to start your own thread about it, instead of getting into a multi-page back and forth, spraying the Dreaded Diarrhea of Digression on the OP's thread..
 
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