Pickups for Thrash

Alpha Blade

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Hey. I need help. I'm trying to find out which pickups are the best for my guitar and for my style; I play lots of rock and metal, but I mostly play thrash metal. So if someone can help me, that would be greatly appreciated. Here's the specs.

  • Washburn X10
  • Basswood body
  • Maple neck
  • Rosewood fingerboard
  • HSS setup
  • Vintage tremolo

I want to get Duncans but not Blackouts because I don't wanna rout the body to put in a battery box. So once again, if someone could help, I'd really appreciate it.

Alpha Blade
 
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welcome! personally if it's a basswood body i'd go dimarzio, especially for thrash. however, if you want to go duncan i'd say full shred bridge, hot rails middle, and lil' '59 for the neck to cover lighter styles. best part is this combo is full humbucking:fing2: if you want to go single though, there's some cool pickups for high gain out there if you don't mind the hum, singles usually have higher clarity overall which is good for technical stuff such as thrash.
 
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These are what I would choose as a starting points.. remember also that with the 21 day real world policy you can exchange the PU if it´s not quite what you wanted ;)

Bridge humbucker (obviously the most important slot in almost all guitars destined to play metal):

Duncan Distortion for classic 80s/early 90s thrash tones (think Megadeth, Slayer, early metallica, Exodus, Destruction, early Sepultura). Also works well for speed metal a la annihilator or Overkill, as well as pulling of very convincing death metal tones if you don´t want /need the somewhat excessive bass of more modern DM acts...

Very raw, aggressive and yet still defined and chunky, with lots of harmonics

For a bit more 80s hair metal flair a JB.

Not as raw, not quite as defined either, bass is a bit looser. But the uppper mid spike makes leads just cut through any mix.

For a bit more of a vintage tone and more all around flexibility while staying firmly on hard rock and metal ground nothing beats the Duncan Custom IMO, my personal favorite.

Even tonality with an inherent aggression rivaling the Distortion, thicker and fuller sound with not quite as much bite.

For the singles I´d personally recommend using a true Single coil such as the SSL-1 in teh Middle position so as to get nicht semi authentic (and hum free) Strat tones in the notch positions. SSL-3 and 5 are also popular if you want something a bit hotter.

Neck is a bit of a tossup... a good single coil will get you in ideal realm for neck cleans with a nice "cold" tone that so many of us thrashheads like, but if you prefer soloing in the neck position then I´d consider a Lil JB or Lil 59 as a starting point, I personally prefer the cool rails but it´s a bit of a unique pickup tonally...

Side notes: The Dimebucker sounds great in basswood, but it´s not really that much of a classic Thrash tone per se. Depending on fingers and amp it could very well be your ticket to ride, though.
The PATB-2 (Distortion Trembucker) is also an excellent choice, especially if the instrument has a bit of a midrange deficiency.

An important thing to note is that one of the hallmarks of most thrash metal tones is heavily scooped mids. Also the huge bass that only a 4x12 (or multiple 4x12s) can provide, meaning that the amp also is an important part of the equation. Ideal would be a JCM800 with a Boost /Od Pedal, a Mesa Mark 4, or a Soldano Pre /VHT poweramp setup.

There are other amps that can cut it easily (Most current heads from Mesa, Peavey, Marshall, Randall, Krank, Soldano and VHT for example) but those 3 are what you´ll hear on most thrash recordings starting with Kill em all straight through Reign in Blood all the way through to current bands like Occult ;)
 
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Thanks. That was a huge help. And now i'm open to DiMarzios after hearing some pickup samples. Also the amp is a Washburn WA15G 15W amp. 2 channels. Gain, master volume, 3-band EQ.
 
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Why would you route the body for a battery box? Can't the battery (batteries?) fit in the control cavity?
 
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welcome! personally if it's a basswood body i'd go dimarzio, especially for thrash. ....

I must have totally overlooked this in my near sleep state last night, because I definitely would have said something.

Sorry bro, Dimarghzio makes some decent pickups, but tossing Duncan in the corner just because the guitar is basswood is like buying a Mitsubishi instead of a Mercedes because you want the car in red. Not saying you´re wrong per se, but the reasoning and logic behind this statement present a riddle to me... :eek13:

Either way, the fact of the matter is that most of the classic thrash recordings were done with the aforementioned Duncans or an EMG 81, the only Dimarzio to ever find widespread acception among thrashers was the Super Distortion, and that was IMO more of a carryover from the preceding era of Priest, Maiden and KISS than anything else, as most SuperD users swapped over to the EMG 81 at some point (Slayer and Metallica for example). There are a few IIRC that used the Tone Zone, but I can´t name a siingle one of the top of my head.... As a side note, slayer and Metallica for example were using Gibsons, BC riches and Jacksons early on, so not very many of those SuperDs really ended up in basswood....
 
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I must have totally overlooked this in my near sleep state last night, because I definitely would have said something.

Sorry bro, Dimarghzio makes some decent pickups, but tossing Duncan in the corner just because the guitar is basswood is like buying a Mitsubishi instead of a Mercedes because you want the car in red. Not saying you´re wrong per se, but the reasoning and logic behind this statement present a riddle to me... :eek13:

Either way, the fact of the matter is that most of the classic thrash recordings were done with the aforementioned Duncans or an EMG 81, the only Dimarzio to ever find widespread acception among thrashers was the Super Distortion, and that was IMO more of a carryover from the preceding era of Priest, Maiden and KISS than anything else, as most SuperD users swapped over to the EMG 81 at some point (Slayer and Metallica for example). There are a few IIRC that used the Tone Zone, but I can´t name a siingle one of the top of my head.... As a side note, slayer and Metallica for example were using Gibsons, BC riches and Jacksons early on, so not very many of those SuperDs really ended up in basswood....

i see. well thanks for the correction:)
 
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dimebucker would be pretty cool in basswood too imo

IDK, I put a dimebucker in a wolfgang and it was way to bright. Sounded like a tin can of a thousand pissed off bees. Really harsh on the ears. out of all the pups I put in that axe the DiMarzio TZ sound the best. Hot and dark. Sounded more like the orignal wolfie pup with a bigger mid hump but gets flubby or lose under to much bass and high gain.
 
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If you do rhythm then I would go Invader. If you do more leads then JB... if you do both then either a Distortion or the Custom. Thrash it up man!
 
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I like Zerberus's ideas - A Duncan Distortion for the bridge, with a true single coil in the middle for those "intro clean tones". A Hot Rails or Little 59 for the neck, and you're all set.

Don't rule out the JB for the bridge - Megadeth used them, Marty Friedman only ever uses them, so you know they can do the job.
 
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Thanks for all the help guys. Now there's one more guitar I need help with. This one I use for more hard rock-oriented playing.

  • Epiphone SG Special
  • Laminated Alder/Maple body
  • Maple neck
  • Rosewood fingerboard
  • HH setup
  • T-O-M bridge w/stoptail
 
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I used a JB for thrash metal for years. If I were doing it today it would be a JB with and A8 magnet. It's is killer. It sings, screams and it's tight - perfect for standard or lower tunings. If I were going to play in a metal band it would be the first thing I'd use.
 
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If you do rhythm then I would go Invader. If you do more leads then JB... if you do both then either a Distortion or the Custom. Thrash it up man!

Man, did you read the thread before you posted?
The OP stated the guitar was basswood and even when a JB was suggestion, members informed others that JB's and basswood don't match.
Invaders and Basswood is not a good match either, don't know where you get these suggestions from, invaders and basswood make for a sound pretty lacking in clarity, which is not what the OP would want.
 
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I used a JB for thrash metal for years. If I were doing it today it would be a JB with and A8 magnet. It's is killer. It sings, screams and it's tight - perfect for standard or lower tunings. If I were going to play in a metal band it would be the first thing I'd use.

Dude, the guy has a basswood guitar, it's been stated more than a few times how bad JB's and basswood sound in combination. JB's are possibly the last pickup you would want for basswood.
 
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Dude, the guy has a basswood guitar, it's been stated more than a few times how bad JB's and basswood sound in combination. JB's are possibly the last pickup you would want for basswood.

Dude - my guitar was basswood. I don't agree with your assessment. Dude.
 
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^You'd be a rare bunch then. The general consensus is that it sounds pretty bad and wouldn't be recommended for someone that isn't quite sure of what they want. Only if someone completely knows what tonal characteristics they are going for, should more 'risky' pickups like JBs be suggested.
 
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