Pictorial of Biasing a Marshall Jubilee.

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shameless bump.

this thing NEEDS to be in the vault.

someone like me, who is just getting into tube amps, this thread is very valuable.

Thanks Jonesy
 
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do you just use a single bias probe on one tube or do you test on both? Im new to this but am keeping up so I can do it myself.

Thanks
 
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skyydogg01 said:
shameless bump.

this thing NEEDS to be in the vault.

someone like me, who is just getting into tube amps, this thread is very valuable.

Thanks Jonesy
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As far as I know, the Blues Jr. (which should be there soon) is fixed bias. Don't hold me to that, but I believe it is.

But this is still all greek to me, and all but one of my amps have been tubers.
 
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Vault Worthy! Great info!

I would like to add a measure of safety by suggesting fiberglass screwdrivers be used in "live" chassis. A metal tool shaft can fry an amp or cause injury as was already noted! ;)

"Fiberglass screwdrivers" are the safest way to turn the trim pots. They are really inexpensive too! Many use the smallest amount of metal in the just the tip.

http://www.tecratools.com/pages/datacom/alignment.html
 
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bigalthethird said:
As far as I know, the Blues Jr. (which should be there soon) is fixed bias. Don't hold me to that, but I believe it is.

But this is still all greek to me, and all but one of my amps have been tubers.
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yeah, it's fixed bias. Just more info that i'd like to know if I decide to do the "variable bias" mod.
 
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I stopped biasing my amps after being shocked once.... ONCE

My left arm felt like it was zapped by lighting and was a dull numb appurtance to my body for about one hour.


HURTS!
 
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Stratman said:
I stopped biasing my amps after being shocked once.... ONCE

My left arm felt like it was zapped by lighting and was a dull numb appurtance to my body for about one hour.


HURTS!
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You did touch something on the amp..or did you use a non-plastic screwdriver?
 
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Gearjoneser said:
Next, I put the bias tool in between a power tube and the amp, turned on my meter, and noticed that the bias was on the cold side after a couple years of using it lightly.....it read 29mA. EL-34's and E-34L's usually sound best between 35 - 42mA.

My method is to have the amp chassis plugged up with the cab and guitar, and hit some chords, while adjusting the bias pot. I hold the chassis up on an angle with my meter laying on a transformer. I'm EXTREMELY careful to not electrocute myself by using a plastic handled screwdriver, and I protect the cab by laying a towel on it. I always bias by ear, trying to get the amp to sound as punchy and strong as possible, but make sure the numbers fall between 35-42mA.
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know what it should be for EL84s dude? extra bonus points, thanks for the cool photos :D

tom
 
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Gearjoneser said:
Bias tools come in the mA or voltage versions. I like the mA version better, so if you shop for one, buy the mA tester. I think I paid about $15 for it.
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This is definitely headed to the vault, once we've finished it. :)

Joe...

Why do you prefer the mA version? The mV ones are the ones with a 1-Ohm shunt resistor installed, right? I'm just wondering why one would be better than the other.
 
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Simon_F said:
This is definitely headed to the vault, once we've finished it. :)

Joe...

Why do you prefer the mA version? The mV ones are the ones with a 1-Ohm shunt resistor installed, right? I'm just wondering why one would be better than the other.
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What are these units called? I'd like to check out if there are any on ebay.de

I don't have to buy a multimeter and a bias probe then!
 
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StrangeSound said:
What are these units called? I'd like to check out if there are any on ebay.de

I don't have to buy a multimeter and a bias probe then!
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Look under "tube bias" or "amp bias" and you should find them. BUT you still need a multimeter for it to plug into.
 
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Simon_F said:
Why do you prefer the mA version? The mV ones are the ones with a 1-Ohm shunt resistor installed, right? I'm just wondering why one would be better than the other.
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I like the mA version because I like to know how hard the tube is getting hit with current. The Voltage Bias Tool is just fine, but by knowing the amperage (mA), I can tell if those plates are going to heat up too much or not.

Before I put the chassis back in the cabinet, I like to use it for the evening and observe the glow of the tubes and listen carefully to the tone. Once I know it's sounding better than ever and the plates aren't turning orange at all, then I put the amp back together, and it's good to go for a year or two.

This Jubilee is not my main amp. I just play it regularly at home and don't put too many hours on it, so those JJ E-34L's should last 5 years.....maybe more.
 
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