Pimp my PRS
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theboatcandream
dreamonologist
Re: Pimp my PRS
Don't Compensating Guitar Nuts only affect the pitch of the string when it's being played open?
Don't Compensating Guitar Nuts only affect the pitch of the string when it's being played open?
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TheArchitect
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Re: Pimp my PRS
No. With the nut moved slightly closer to the 1st fret it affects the relative pitch of the fretted notes as well
No. With the nut moved slightly closer to the 1st fret it affects the relative pitch of the fretted notes as well
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: Pimp my PRS
I'd leave the tuners alone, and just do the pinch lock stringing technique.
The only mods I'd do are changing it to a 3 way toggle with a pullup tone knob, if you need to split them. A set of Duncans is usually an improvement.
Graphtech probably has saddles that'll fit on the PRS, although string breakage is almost always a result of heavy handed playing, which should be corrected on your end, if you're consistently breaking strings.
I'd leave the tuners alone, and just do the pinch lock stringing technique.
The only mods I'd do are changing it to a 3 way toggle with a pullup tone knob, if you need to split them. A set of Duncans is usually an improvement.
Graphtech probably has saddles that'll fit on the PRS, although string breakage is almost always a result of heavy handed playing, which should be corrected on your end, if you're consistently breaking strings.
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TheArchitect
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Re: Pimp my PRS
I agree on the string breakage. The PRS saddles have very gentle breaks the strings go over. I have never heard of serious string breakage issues on a PRS. I'm pretty sure they do make Graphtec saddles for those bridges. They will change the tone a bit though.
I agree on the string breakage. The PRS saddles have very gentle breaks the strings go over. I have never heard of serious string breakage issues on a PRS. I'm pretty sure they do make Graphtec saddles for those bridges. They will change the tone a bit though.
theboatcandream
dreamonologist
Re: Pimp my PRS
How? It doesn't change the length of the vibrating part of the string - the section from the fret to the bridge.
How? It doesn't change the length of the vibrating part of the string - the section from the fret to the bridge.
Luke Duke
PRSlustologist
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TheArchitect
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Re: Pimp my PRS
You set the intonation based on open and the 12th fret yes? By moving the nut forward and intonating to the twelfth fret, you have effectively moved fret 1-11 back a hair which compensates for the string stretch when you fret a note.
You set the intonation based on open and the 12th fret yes? By moving the nut forward and intonating to the twelfth fret, you have effectively moved fret 1-11 back a hair which compensates for the string stretch when you fret a note.
theboatcandream
dreamonologist
Luke Duke
PRSlustologist
Re: Pimp my PRS
Scale length isn't determined by position of the frets. Scale length determines the position of the frets though. Halfway point should be where the twelth fret fretwire falls. If you meant for when you are playing further up the neck I understand what you mean.
However we are not working with perfect mediums and small adjustments are needed to get instruments to play in tune, thus the use of saddles and compensated nuts.
Boat my honest question to you is: do you just look for threads to hijack and be argumentative in?
Luke
Scale length isn't determined by position of the frets. Scale length determines the position of the frets though. Halfway point should be where the twelth fret fretwire falls. If you meant for when you are playing further up the neck I understand what you mean.
However we are not working with perfect mediums and small adjustments are needed to get instruments to play in tune, thus the use of saddles and compensated nuts.
Boat my honest question to you is: do you just look for threads to hijack and be argumentative in?
Luke
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Artie
Peaveyologist
Re: Pimp my PRS
Just curious - what does this include? A simple Switchcraft 3-way should be around $10.
Just curious - what does this include? A simple Switchcraft 3-way should be around $10.
theboatcandream
dreamonologist
Re: Pimp my PRS
If the frets haven't moved in relation to the bridge, how is the intonation any different except when the string is played open?
If the frets haven't moved in relation to the bridge, how is the intonation any different except when the string is played open?
Robert Delahunt
Showmasterologist
Re: Pimp my PRS
I don't know about the Feiten system, if it's equipped, but the Earvana system is what I prefer (and the only one I know) due to it fixing open chord open strings versus fretted. I mean, any time you can fret the low E 1st fret and the F natural is totally in tune, I'm sold
I don't know about the Feiten system, if it's equipped, but the Earvana system is what I prefer (and the only one I know) due to it fixing open chord open strings versus fretted. I mean, any time you can fret the low E 1st fret and the F natural is totally in tune, I'm sold
krankguitarist
Krankitupologist
Re: Pimp my PRS
I'm no physics buff, but this is the best I can do to explain it:
Basically, when you move where the cut-off point on the nut is for a specific string a little towards the bridge, you make the string shorter, and each of the frets comes into contact with the string earlier than they would have if the cut-off point was in its "normal" spot. This'll make the note a little flatter.
Its about the string as a whole, really, not just the space between the fret and the bridge.
I'm no physics buff, but this is the best I can do to explain it:
Basically, when you move where the cut-off point on the nut is for a specific string a little towards the bridge, you make the string shorter, and each of the frets comes into contact with the string earlier than they would have if the cut-off point was in its "normal" spot. This'll make the note a little flatter.
Its about the string as a whole, really, not just the space between the fret and the bridge.
Robert Delahunt
Showmasterologist
Re: Pimp my PRS
Read the earvana website: evidentally what they say is correct when their product works. I feel you, I've been there, and I asked these same questions. I don't prefer the Feiten system, but with Earvana, the jist is that the 0 fret (nut) for each string is different in terms of how far it's moved and how high it sits when played open.
It works. Basically, when you fret a note, you not only change the string length, but you increase the tension on it. I won't get into any more because I'm sounding like a commercial, but it works.
EDIT: But yeah, if yours is already compensated, don't use the Earvana on it unless you're willing to have the guitar modified (yet again). For what it's worth, however, I love the Earvana.
Read the earvana website: evidentally what they say is correct when their product works. I feel you, I've been there, and I asked these same questions. I don't prefer the Feiten system, but with Earvana, the jist is that the 0 fret (nut) for each string is different in terms of how far it's moved and how high it sits when played open.
It works. Basically, when you fret a note, you not only change the string length, but you increase the tension on it. I won't get into any more because I'm sounding like a commercial, but it works.
EDIT: But yeah, if yours is already compensated, don't use the Earvana on it unless you're willing to have the guitar modified (yet again). For what it's worth, however, I love the Earvana.
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TheArchitect
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But you have move the bridge saddles in relationship to the frets. By setting the intonation of open vs 12th fret with the nut repositioned the saddles are changed slightly from where they would have been with the nut in the traditional location
But you have move the bridge saddles in relationship to the frets. By setting the intonation of open vs 12th fret with the nut repositioned the saddles are changed slightly from where they would have been with the nut in the traditional location
Re: Pimp my PRS
It's me Snowdog, I'm going by a new name cause someone in this forum had a problem with "Snowdog"
Any way, I appreciate everyone's input.
I'm learning a lot just by your replies. Some is over my head but in the end it's very helpful.
Thanks everybody
Peace out!
It's me Snowdog, I'm going by a new name cause someone in this forum had a problem with "Snowdog"
Any way, I appreciate everyone's input.
I'm learning a lot just by your replies. Some is over my head but in the end it's very helpful.
Thanks everybody
Peace out!
theboatcandream
dreamonologist
Re: Pimp my PRS
I don't understand this comment. I know what you mean by it, but I don't know where it's coming from.:eek13:
What colour is the guitar?
I don't understand this comment. I know what you mean by it, but I don't know where it's coming from.:eek13:
What colour is the guitar?
Re: Pimp my PRS
What I mean is ,,
I've only owned one Les Paul my whole life. It was a 1980 custom cherry burst. Beautiful with classic tone !! But the guitar was like an untamed beast. The guitar had retard strength. It was like driving a full jet car all the time. And it really did have just one gear, and that was "open throttle" gear.
Currently I'm using a Whale Blue PRS.
What I mean is ,,
I've only owned one Les Paul my whole life. It was a 1980 custom cherry burst. Beautiful with classic tone !! But the guitar was like an untamed beast. The guitar had retard strength. It was like driving a full jet car all the time. And it really did have just one gear, and that was "open throttle" gear.
Currently I'm using a Whale Blue PRS.
