PodXT vs. PodXT Live

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I have a podxt live. In hindsight, I would have been better off with a podxt, simply because of the size of the thing.

I really wanted a wah pedal though...:smack:

I don't mind the tones I get, just requires some tweaking.

The presets are made to put you off from buying the device.
 
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Most of the presets stink. But I do like the "Run Like Hell" patch.

It really is not hard to tweak and program, though.
 
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the strongest part of the the podxt imho is the ease of programming. I don't even save any patches because its so easy. I wish the wha pedal could be actioned through the footswitch (maybe it can, but I don't know how....).

The boss gt8 can certainly do more things, but its not that immediate to tweak.

I wonder why the presets on all modellers suck? It makes me think about the people who design this stuff. Do they get things right simply by chance?:scratchch
 
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The presets are made to put you off from buying the device.

That I do concur with.

However....I have found that some of the Line 6 made patches on CustomTone.com are quite good.
 
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I did notice that.

The only model pack I have for my XT is the Bass amp model pack...which is nice but I mostly got it for playing at home....which is what I'd plan on doing with the XT excusively.

Looks like the deal goes down tomorrow morning.

Did you take the bass expansion pack off? I'm not sure if you are aware, but you could've just uninstalled it, to put it on your Live. You can do it endless number of times...that bass expansion pack is really like getting the Bass Pod XT (same # of amp sims and cabs). The Bass POD XT probably has more effects that are more suitable for bass, though.
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Yeah...I keep hearing that.

....and yet I keep going back to hearing what folks are doing with their PodXT's and other Line 6 devices and realize that it's horse****.
The POD XT sounds the most true to analog, at least to my ears out of all the digital units I have heard. I owned a Boss GT-8, and the Spring reverb doesn't even come close. All this talk about "a layer of cotton over the sound" is BS if you have the presence and EQ settings set up properly. The POD 2.0 wasn't very good though, I returned that 3 days after purchasing.
 
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So, I hauled the XT Live to rehearsal tonight and plugged it into the PA.

The bass player said I sounded decent; he was really ready for a night-long suck-fest with my tone but he complimented me and said that all things considered it was alot better sounding than he would have expected.

My conclusion is that it just isn't there yet. I also had to adjust to having to share my speaker response with everyone that was going through the PA.

The thing that bothered me though was that there was just so much damned gear to carry; two guitars (acoustic and an electric) the XT Live, a backpack with various things I needed and a cooler of homebrews (lest they try and feed me Bud again). I also had the PowerBlock and the Marshall 2x12 in the car just in case.

The portability factor I'm afraid is getting to me. I'm not sure whether I should just get a Flextone II for cheap and leave it there and be done with it or what. But damn am I getting tired of lugging gear...
 
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Marinblues said:
The boss gt8 can certainly do more things, but its not that immediate to tweak.

I think it's the other way around, really. I owned a GT-8 and exchanged it back, because there is no such thing as a "bass expansion pack", or other add ons (metal pack), online updates, and that was an important decision, as well as the downloading of patches through the community, and great, intuitive computer editing. Where the Boss GT units FAIL is that they don't have any USB connectivity. This is not true of the GT PRO (rackmount), they have software for that, so there really is no excuse for it. I'm still considering purchasing another GT-8, because of the versatility of having both, and integrating the two units is possible.
 
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I think it's the other way around, really. I owned a GT-8 and exchanged it back, because there is no such thing as a "bass expansion pack", or other add ons (metal pack), online updates, and that was an important decision, as well as the downloading of patches through the community, and great, intuitive computer editing. Where the Boss GT units FAIL is that they don't have any USB connectivity. This is not true of the GT PRO (rackmount), they have software for that, so there really is no excuse for it. I'm still considering purchasing another GT-8, because of the versatility of having both, and integrating the two units is possible.

I agree. This is where Line 6 has smoked everyone else in the industry. They understant versatility and the necessity for community as well as expansion.

Other units may be better but the fact of the matter is that when you get enough folks making patches for them they're bound to come up with something more interesting or even closer to what you were looking for than one company that has a limited offering.

No USB support and no Mac support are total dealbreakers in my book. Behringer used to have them with the V-Amp. Half the reason I sold both of mine were because they dropped support. Someone actually made their own interface for the Mac but it was nowhere near as good.

They're getting the online experience down as well. They're fostering communities and, despite what some might suggest contrary, they're listening to their buyers and adding features they've asked for.

It astounds me that neither Behringer, Vox or Johnson managed to get it "right" when the answers have been so obvious.
 
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So, I hauled the XT Live to rehearsal tonight and plugged it into the PA.

The bass player said I sounded decent; he was really ready for a night-long suck-fest with my tone but he complimented me and said that all things considered it was alot better sounding than he would have expected.

My conclusion is that it just isn't there yet. I also had to adjust to having to share my speaker response with everyone that was going through the PA.

The thing that bothered me though was that there was just so much damned gear to carry; two guitars (acoustic and an electric) the XT Live, a backpack with various things I needed and a cooler of homebrews (lest they try and feed me Bud again). I also had the PowerBlock and the Marshall 2x12 in the car just in case.

The portability factor I'm afraid is getting to me. I'm not sure whether I should just get a Flextone II for cheap and leave it there and be done with it or what. But damn am I getting tired of lugging gear...

Are you finding that it isn't suiting your needs for the type of music you are playing? I was in the Line 6 boards, and quite a few were saying that for heavier styles of playing the Metal Expansion was really important. I'm not even sure if that is true, and it is yet another $50. I haven't purchased that particular one, so I can't comment on it yet.

I agree. This is where Line 6 has smoked everyone else in the industry. They understant versatility and the necessity for community as well as expansion.

Other units may be better but the fact of the matter is that when you get enough folks making patches for them they're bound to come up with something more interesting or even closer to what you were looking for than one company that has a limited offering.

No USB support and no Mac support are total dealbreakers in my book. Behringer used to have them with the V-Amp. Half the reason I sold both of mine were because they dropped support. Someone actually made their own interface for the Mac but it was nowhere near as good.

They're getting the online experience down as well. They're fostering communities and, despite what some might suggest contrary, they're listening to their buyers and adding features they've asked for.

It astounds me that neither Behringer, Vox or Johnson managed to get it "right" when the answers have been so obvious.

Excellent points. I more or less do not understand how a company wouldn't do it. I can't imagine how much money Line 6 is making off these downloads and expanding, so it only helps them when they do it. From what I understand, they are working on a Version 4 update, and much of it is from things the community wants implemented.

The amp models on the Boss GT-8 are NOT better than POD XT...I am told both units have their strengths. The Vox Tonelab stuff is supposed to be great, from the sound samples I heard, I wasn't that impressed with it. I've heard much better POD XT samples from the community.

Did you find the amp models to be better on the Behringer or comparable?
 
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I decided years ago that most of the presets on modellers/effects units were designed for the metalhead 13 year old.

I don't understand WHY, though.
 
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Are you finding that it isn't suiting your needs for the type of music you are playing? I was in the Line 6 boards, and quite a few were saying that for heavier styles of playing the Metal Expansion was really important. I'm not even sure if that is true, and it is yet another $50. I haven't purchased that particular one, so I can't comment on it yet.

I'm finding the presets and the sounds I'm getting cover a huge range. I can spend an evening working to nail something that's dead-on for Bush's first album and then the next night put together the trem and Twin sound Duke Robillard used for the track titled "Love Sick."

The only appeal of the Metal Expansion Pack for me is that it's the closest I'll ever come to owning a Diezel herbert.

Excellent points. I more or less do not understand how a company wouldn't do it. I can't imagine how much money Line 6 is making off these downloads and expanding, so it only helps them when they do it. From what I understand, they are working on a Version 4 update, and much of it is from things the community wants implemented.

The concept of new tools with an update is astounding. They're totally to be commended for this mindset.

Did you find the amp models to be better on the Behringer or comparable?

Some yes, and some no. I did find they were "darker" tonally consistently.

I decided years ago that most of the presets on modellers/effects units were designed for the metalhead 13 year old.

I don't understand WHY, though.

Why?

Because a 13-year old is only eight years away from having the kind of money that they could spend on a $1000 Pod unit.
 
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