Pots for Humbucker with single coils

Schappy

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Im putting a PATB3 in the bridge of my strat with two Classic Stack Plus pickups.

Should I go with 500k or 250 pots?
 
Re: Pots for Humbucker with single coils

I read somewhere about adding a resistor to ground from the 5way switch but not sure if it works.

Has anybody done this?
 
Re: Pots for Humbucker with single coils

Yes, it is possible and applied on American Fat Teles:

http://support.fender.com/service_diagrams/telecaster/010-8000_02B_SISD.pdf

You'd need to wire a 500K resistor as follows:

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Of course the particulars would be a bit different in your setting, and that resistor would better be activated via a mini switch or super 5 way switch.

An important thing is that this would change the taper a bit. Would make a regular audio pot a bit more lineer.

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Re: Pots for Humbucker with single coils

In the past I always put 500's in my Strats just to keep it flexible... I seriously NEVER had them quite open all the way, just a little glassy.... Now I play with adding resistors of different values until it's tuned to my desire... Usually ends up around 300k total resistance... Try several options and feel it out... Good luck!
 
Re: Pots for Humbucker with single coils

In the past I always put 500's in my Strats just to keep it flexible... I seriously NEVER had them quite open all the way, just a little glassy.... Now I play with adding resistors of different values until it's tuned to my desire... Usually ends up around 300k total resistance... Try several options and feel it out... Good luck!

300k is not a bad call in all actuality. Such a choice can result in the amp eq being able to have some control. IMO, not a bad choice at all.
 
Re: Pots for Humbucker with single coils

300k is not a bad call in all actuality. Such a choice can result in the amp eq being able to have some control. IMO, not a bad choice at all.

+1 for a 300k volume pot. I have done this in a modified Ibanez SAS36FM with Duncan Designed TE-101n, SC-101m and HB-102b pickups.
 
Re: Pots for Humbucker with single coils

FWIW I tried a 330k volume pot on the single coils in my Godin and HATED it for everything except the neck pickup. 250k made the treblies sound much better.
 
Re: Pots for Humbucker with single coils

330k pots and turn the tone control down until you find the tone you like. This way you will have some extra treble on tap in case you want it (just turn up your tone knob).

Why throw away the treble with a 250k pot and not be able to get it back if you want (except by taking the guitar apart and replacing the pots again)?

Keep it simple and keep your options available.
 
Re: Pots for Humbucker with single coils

330k pots and turn the tone control down until you find the tone you like. This way you will have some extra treble on tap in case you want it (just turn up your tone knob).

Why throw away the treble with a 250k pot and not be able to get it back if you want (except by taking the guitar apart and replacing the pots again)?

Keep it simple and keep your options available.

If it worked that way I'd agree with you (that was exactly my reasoning when I was doing my rewiring). Your pickup sees the same load regardless of pot position. Someone explained to me that this is because volume pots act as voltage dividers rather than variable resistors . . .
 
Re: Pots for Humbucker with single coils

I actually found a pot that reads 420k. Im going to use this for my volume pot with a treble bleed mod. When I decrease the volume ever so slightly I should be in 250-300k territory when using the single coils.

Does this make sense?
Im also going to use 250k pots for the tone controls.
 
Re: Pots for Humbucker with single coils

If it worked that way I'd agree with you (that was exactly my reasoning when I was doing my rewiring). Your pickup sees the same load regardless of pot position. Someone explained to me that this is because volume pots act as voltage dividers rather than variable resistors . . .

In actuality, it does work this way. With 330k - 500k pots for vol & tone. Then if your guitar is too bright, just turn the tone pot down a bit. That's why it's called a tone control...it controls tone by varying the amount of treble (dependant upon cap selection). Leave the tone control set to where it sounds good for most of your music, then just turn it up or down further as desired to add or remove more treble frequencies.

I just noticed you're from Scarborough. I lived in Toronto back in the early 70s (a bit before your time) and knew a few musicians in Scarborough. Neil Young and Lighthouse did some recording in toronto while I was there. Mike Brewes was a very talented keyboardest, etc. who played in my group back then. A real coincidence, I know, if you were familiar with him.
 
Re: Pots for Humbucker with single coils

In actuality, it does work this way. With 330k - 500k pots for vol & tone. Then if your guitar is too bright, just turn the tone pot down a bit. That's why it's called a tone control...it controls tone by varying the amount of treble (dependant upon cap selection). Leave the tone control set to where it sounds good for most of your music, then just turn it up or down further as desired to add or remove more treble frequencies.

If you swap a 250k volume pot with a 500k volume pot, then turn the new pot down to about 250k . . . you will get a much brighter sound from your pickups. I know that you can control the sound using the tone control, but what's the point of having a tone control if you've got to leave it half off all the time? Swapping both tone and volume controls makes sense though . . . but I didn't have two spare pots at the time.

I just noticed you're from Scarborough. I lived in Toronto back in the early 70s (a bit before your time) and knew a few musicians in Scarborough. Neil Young and Lighthouse did some recording in toronto while I was there. Mike Brewes was a very talented keyboardest, etc. who played in my group back then. A real coincidence, I know, if you were familiar with him.

Sorry man, I just moved here last year. I've never heard of Mike Brewes. The Toronto music scene is not to bad though, there seems like there's a little of something for everyone.
 
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