Pre-NGD: Les Paul content

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I've just sold my tele, now I'm down to one guitar. Well, that's not enough!
I've been craving the les paul kind of tone for a while and so I looked into my long term finances,
and got something I thought was reasonable.

I considered getting another agile. problem is that after new pickups and buying a suitable hard case...
PLUS add in the fret level and crown it may need out of the box. well suddenly an AL-3100 costs close to a G.

*Most* of the epiphone things are OK but kind of overpriced, especially the ones that come with those terrible stock pickups.

I thought about the gibson faded studios. They now have maple caps and burstbucker pros.
Still not in love with the finishes, and I'd have to do a rewire as I hate the circuit board thing they do now and I don't like being locked into 300K pots with neck buckers.
I'd also still have to buy a hard case.


Anyways I got something and, it is a Les Paul. Here's what this model has:

Non-chambered mahogany body with a maple cap...
heritage cherry sunburst...
60's style slimtaper mahogany set neck with deep-set long neck tennon...
22 frets on a rosewood board...
Kluson tulip tuners
bustbuckers #1 and #2...
and a hard case...

it's too bad the headstock looks FREAKING RETARDED!




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It's the Epiphone limited edition 1960 Les Paul Standard v3. one of 1960 made.
Comes with a case with pink lining, and a numbered certificate. It's like a made in china R0.
In b4 teh Haterz... yeah I know... made in china, has a 3 piece neck, and it's wrapped in thick poly.
Frets are softer metal than gibson's. May still need some professional work to get it to play it's best. I'm well aware.

I almost went with the gibson faded but... the fadeds have some of the sound and not the look.
This Epi thing has some of both and a faster neck.
I've played these Epi 50th's and many gibson studios side by side and honestly I like this thing about as much as I like the Gibson Studio Deluxe which is $1400.
Mine was $619. So, assuming that the one that gets shipped is a good specimen, then I think I'll be quite pleased.

There's a very small element of settling for less, but really, I could NOT fork the extra 1000+ dollars for a used Gibson Traditional plus top.
And at least now I've done enough side-by-side comparisons with my own ears and hands to understand what I'm settling for.

So, as I'm finally getting a backup and compliment to my strat, I'm really looking forward to posting a real NGD with plenty of pics from my crappy digital camera.

Here's another stock photo in the mean time.
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An Epiphone with an ABR-1 bridge?
You see something new every day...

Epiphone has been coming up with some really interesting models lately, a lot of which come with Gibson pickups, it's pretty cool.

That headstock really is horrendous though...jk


...not really



Congrats on the new guitar! There's nothing quite like a new Les Paul! It's the best feeling in the world...
 
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Epiphone has HAD to step up their game recently. Look at agile! The net-lore has it that agiles kick Epi's butt 100% in value and performance.
I just feel like when Epiphone does what it does best and does it right, it makes a guitar that feels more like a traditional les paul.

The gibson pickups help a lot, honestly. I don't *have to* do a pickup swap on this one if I don't want.
 
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Kinda sucks that I couldn't find the darkburst one at the right price. Now I'll have 2 cherry sunburst guitars! I can't wait to take pics with both guitars though.
 
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Man that's a sweet sunburst color. You got a great deal too. I didn't know Epiphones came with Burstbuckers so that's even better. Those are great pickups. Congratulations.
 
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Congratulations. I've never understood what all the hate with the Epiphone headstock is all about. I personally don't have a problem with it.
 
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iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii would've gotten the gibson. some of the best guitars i've ever played were Les Paul Fadeds...

not saying ALL Les Paul Fadeds are the best guitars i've ever played...I'm saying some of them come out really really really really unexpectedly awesome for the price...

hope ya like it tho.
 
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i can see the future....you will eventually sell this one too.
Think about how happy you have been with your DRRI amp. Its cos now you have the amp that delivers the sound you wanted all along. Its cos the DRRI is not a compromise.
You will go thru the same process until you find a guitar like that too.
Until then...enjoy your epi and play it till it hurts, then play it some more.
 
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They have one of these at my local shop. Other than the small neck & frets which are a deterrent for me personally, I feel it's a pretty darn good value. I believe they are selling it for around $900.

And FWIW, I think the chinese Epis are starting to really come into their stride. I picked up a LTD special recently with P90s, and the pups are a bit harsh, but the guitar is flawless for fit and finish. Neck angle is good, fretwork is pretty darned good, as is the nut- just needs a minor tweak. Typical poor taper pots, but with an electronics swap & new pups it would be a heckuva nice guitar. The sticker was $299, but I paid a bit less after trading in some pedals and my VOX DA5.

I had an Epi Les Paul plus top I got in spring of 2010 that was also quite well put together..approaching upper MIK level of quality.

Are they as good as a good Gibson LP standard, Historic or a MIJ les Paul? nope, but they are also a helluva lot cheaper.
 
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i can see the future....you will eventually sell this one too.
Think about how happy you have been with your DRRI amp. Its cos now you have the amp that delivers the sound you wanted all along. Its cos the DRRI is not a compromise.
You will go thru the same process until you find a guitar like that too.
Until then...enjoy your epi and play it till it hurts, then play it some more.

Yeah I know. I did buy this as a substitute for the real thing. the gibson that I really want is just too far away. Just something to keep me happily occupied until I take care of some other things.

*technically* I did have enough physical money for a trad plus. But, to concentrate on school, I'm quitting my job in fall and living on student loans. Out of those loans and that money I have, I also need 2 semesters of textbooks, a lot of new clothes, a TV, a new desk, a lot of new cookware, and I should probably think about getting a better car. Oh and all my rent, bills, and food for 12 months. After selling the Tele I'm really only spending $350 on my new guitar, which seems reasonable given my 12-month outlook.
Once I'm out of school and making money... heck yeah I'm selling this thing! But if I own this thing as long as I owned my last epi, then this should get me through a significant portion of the time that I'll be living on a fixed income.


The good thing about the DRRi is it makes a HUGE difference. Even crappy guitars start to sound better when I plug them into this thing.

Play it til it hurts and play it some more... well said sir.
 
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Wait, wait, wait a minute.......................

Did you sell your SG? If so, when and why??????
 
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Wait, wait, wait a minute.......................

Did you sell your SG? If so, when and why??????

I did!

It had a wicked dead spot on the 11th fret of the G string. I tried a lot of stuff to get rid of it. Nuthin worked.
After I got my strat, I knew I needed the amp to go with it. So I let the SG go, and the egnater tweaker.

Man, it was cool but that dead spot drove me nuts. NUTS.

I contemplated another SG for this time around, but I realized I think I'm looking for something more focused and precise than an SG. SGs are very open and can get a little muddy. My strat's got that covered. I feel like the LP kind of tone would help me cover more bases.
 
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I did!

It had a wicked dead spot on the 11th fret of the G string. I tried a lot of stuff to get rid of it. Nuthin worked.
After I got my strat, I knew I needed the amp to go with it. So I let the SG go, and the egnater tweaker.

Man, it was cool but that dead spot drove me nuts. NUTS.

I contemplated another SG for this time around, but I realized I think I'm looking for something more focused and precise than an SG. SGs are very open and can get a little muddy. My strat's got that covered. I feel like the LP kind of tone would help me cover more bases.

So basically you sold you tweaker and SG for a Strat and a DRRI?

Talk about a tone change
 
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So basically you sold you tweaker and SG for a Strat and a DRRI?

Talk about a tone change

yeah for real.

BUT...

I picked up an M.I. Audio Crunch Box. Dude it's pretty close to being like a marshall DSL in a box. It does a lot of that "green channel" plexi-ish thing and a lot of the red channel kind of gain but with a little less of the super-thick low mids, probably because I'm running it into a DRRI.

The crunchbox makes it feel very much like a return to the marshall camp, but with a much better clean tone.
 
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Congratulations. I've never understood what all the hate with the Epiphone headstock is all about. I personally don't have a problem with it.

It is purely personal for me. I was traumatized by my friends epi sg special and the terrible tones it produced, same with fender squiers. Although, those brands might have better models and could be upgraded and set up to perfection, I just can't get past my irrational disgust for them..and why bother when there are so many good alternatives out there. Minus the headstock, that guitar looks great!
 
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low end epi's and squiers really can sound like crap.

Thankfully I've had my paws on a few of these Epi 1960's and they sound more than passable. Miles ahead of the Epi bolt ons, a mile ahead of the plain and plus tops, and in the same ballpark as gibson studio models... at least according to my A/B tests at the GC.

I won't have to upgrade it, just set it up. That puts it above most of the agiles I could've bought and I was also looking for something more traditional than an ESP.
 
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