PRS Santana SE and JB/59-set

Re: PRS Santana SE and JB/59-set

Well, I'd say, if you already have the JB, try it! Use that as your 'control' group. Then try the Seths. I would probably like the Seths, but that is pretty specific to what I like, not a judgement call on the pickups themselves. I always use what I have first, especially if they are good pickups like that.

Good call . . . thanks !

I am curious as to 'see; what the Seths will do in this guitar.
 
Re: PRS Santana SE and JB/59-set

No, it's the JB's wind, thinner wire, and narrower coils that give it certain total qualities, and sometimes those don't work out as well as one would hope. JB fan here 'Aceman' estimated that 1/3 of the time JB's 'fail' in mahogany. That also means that 2/3's of the time they work out. So it's not that they always bomb out, but that there is a possibility of disappointment. What some members have reported from personal experience in mahogany is a shrill, 'ice pick', 'dentist drill' high-end and a flabby, loose low-end in certain guitars. This doesn't seem to be an issue in brighter woods, where the JB is routinely praised. Can a stock JB work well in mahogany? Absolutely. Can it sound awful? Sometimes. For those that do their own soldering and have some spare PU's lying around (which is most of us here), it's no big deal. We can do what's needed to get the sounds we want. If you're specifically buying a JB for a mahogany guitar and paying someone else to do the work, then you probably want to know about a 1/3 failure rate ahead of time (eve if you return the PU for a refund, you're still paying someone to install and remove, and install again). There's the Custom 'family' of PU's (several production models, and several popular user-modified models) that seem to work well in any kind of wood. That's a safer bet some people. Armed with that knowledge, make your choice.

Thanks for the heads up, Blueman.

Much appreciated.
 
Re: PRS Santana SE and JB/59-set

Since you already have the Seth set, I would probably try those first. Then see if you need to go a different direction. You may just be completely satisfied with that set.

However, if you try the JB-59 set first, I think you will face a dilemma...the neck will sound bright and clear (maybe with a bit of a boomy bass), and the bridge will sound "fuzzy", mushy, and nasally, especially at higher volumes. This may or may not be appealing to you, but I doubt it.

You say your other guitars have medium output pups in them and that you want a change...the Seths will give you a clarity change, and the Custom-Demon set will give you...well, just about anything you want.
 
Re: PRS Santana SE and JB/59-set

Since you already have the Seth set, I would probably try those first. Then see if you need to go a different direction. You may just be completely satisfied with that set.

However, if you try the JB-59 set first, I think you will face a dilemma...the neck will sound bright and clear (maybe with a bit of a boomy bass), and the bridge will sound "fuzzy", mushy, and nasally, especially at higher volumes.


+1. If I had a spare set of Seth's, they would already have been in that guitar.
 
Re: PRS Santana SE and JB/59-set

I have a Santana SE and have tried a set of '59/Jazz pickups in it that was great. I wanted something with a little more output in the bridge, so I replaced the '59 with a Custom 5 and am extremely happy with the results. The Custom 5 has more output than the '59, but is not too hot IMO. Cleans up great and sounds really big in my Santana.

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Re: PRS Santana SE and JB/59-set

+1. If I had a spare set of Seth's, they would already have been in that guitar.

Decision made folks !


SETH-set IS GOING IN, THIS WEEKEND
!

Lets see how that will sound to my ears.
The Seth was originally intended for a Black Tokai (MIJ) 335, but that never happened. (...not yet, sounds better)
 
Re: PRS Santana SE and JB/59-set

I have a Santana SE and have tried a set of '59/Jazz pickups in it that was great. I wanted something with a little more output in the bridge, so I replaced the '59 with a Custom 5 and am extremely happy with the results. The Custom 5 has more output than the '59, but is not too hot IMO. Cleans up great and sounds really big in my Santana.

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THAT Is my fav Santana finish !
I was really looking hard for one, used off course, but got an absolute steal on the vintage cherry red, or what ever PRS is calling the red colour.

If the Seth's is not doing it for me, the JB/59 is going in there, as yet another trail run.
 
Re: PRS Santana SE and JB/59-set

I think the bigger part of the problem with a JB sounding mushy in the se santana std is the fact that the guitar has a 24.5 in scale length which, in my experience with the se 245 gives a lot less string tension and this leads to less snap and bite to its tone.
It will be a very nice playable instrument though.
 
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