Push-Pull-Push-Pull

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harmonix1234

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Can I use both a master volume and master tone push pull to split two humbuckers?

Details of what I want to do.

- Guitar with two humbuckers (neck and bridge).

- 3 Way switch like in a Tele
(Bridge, Bridge + Neck, Neck)

- Push/Pull Master volume
(when pulled, splits neck bucker to make coil closest to neck active)

- Push Pull Master Tone
(when pulled splits bridge bucker to make coil closest to bridge active)

Both pickups 4 conductor wiring.
cannot for the life of me work out how to do it, and searching this forum I have come up empty handed.
Any diagrams would be much appreciated if anyone knows where I can find one.
 
Re: Push-Pull-Push-Pull

Push pulls are independent of the pot function below them. If you have 2 pots, you can have 2 push pulls with any function you like. Wiring can also be modular......use the diagram that gives you the pot functions you want, then look at the wiring specific to the push pulls.
And if I were you, I'd split to the slug coils - less piercing in the bridge and more clear in the neck.
 
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Ok, so it can be done. Thanks for clearing that up.
I don't know what modular wiring is, but I'm sure if you're mentioning it then it must be worth investigating. Knowing now it can be done, still can't work out how the wiring would go though.
Specifically in search of a diagram I can take to the shed and follow from scratch if anyone knows where to find one? Otherwise I will just take to the music shop and pay someone to do it.
I'd really like to do it myself though if possible.
I'm actually after the piercing bridge tone, and it will be a 24 fret 25.5 inch neck, so the neck coil will naturally be roughly where a neck coil would be on a strat which I'm after.
 
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Re: Push-Pull-Push-Pull

harmonix1234 said:
I don't know what modular wiring is.
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The Support pages of this website offer numerous schematic diagrams to illustrate commonly used circuits. There is not enough server capacity (or human patience) to provide every possible circuit. Some times, it is necessary to extrapolate elements of more than one basic circuit in order to arrive at a single design to suit a particular purpose.

Some SDUG forum members consider this circuit business a sport. A few are even generous enough to furnish bespoke diagrams.

In my opinion, it aids understanding of your instrument if you appreciate what the electronics do and why. There are, for example, only so many ways that you can arrange the input, output and ground connections on a volume control or on a series/single/parallel mode switch. Of necessity, these elements have to be arranged in a particular sequence to deliver the signal to the output socket(s).

If you stare for long enough at the more complex diagrams offered in the Support area, you should begin to appreciate how the elements combine to form a specific circuit. With practice, you should be able to mix 'n' match your own circuits.
 
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What I mean by modular is that you take the basic wiring scheme first and solder that up, then treat the push-pulls as a separate module. That way the pot they happen to be sitting on is much less important.
 
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Thankyou! I couldn't find these. Need to work on my googling skills.
That 3 way in the first pic. Is that a toggle?
 
Re: Push-Pull-Push-Pull

Yes. The first schematic illustrates a Switchcraft type three-way toggle switch. Ignore that area of the diagram. In your imagination or in a graphics editing software environment, wipe the toggle and introduce the Tele lever.

NOTE: To split your humbuckers to obtain the screw coils, the black conductor becomes ground and the green conductor goes to the selector switch.

EDIT: The bare wire remains grounded at all times.
 
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