Aceman
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Re: Put a JB in my LP Traditional, and not happy... Need suggestions!
We have never actually heard Blueman play - too be fair.
We have never actually heard Blueman play - too be fair.
Put a JB in my LP Traditional, and not happy... Need suggestions!
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Little Pigbacon
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Re: Put a JB in my LP Traditional, and not happy... Need suggestions!
Still, it's pretty exciting to hear he plays bagpipes. I wonder how those sound with a UOA5.
Still, it's pretty exciting to hear he plays bagpipes. I wonder how those sound with a UOA5.
jaybonitrane
Snickerdoodle Milk
Re: Put a JB in my LP Traditional, and not happy... Need suggestions!
I think you should get A2pro bridge pup used and flip it upsidedown and put it in the neck...then put A8 mag in the JB and put it in the bridge.
Or going with Blackouts will do..but you have to buy special tone pots for them.
I think you should get A2pro bridge pup used and flip it upsidedown and put it in the neck...then put A8 mag in the JB and put it in the bridge.
Or going with Blackouts will do..but you have to buy special tone pots for them.
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Little Pigbacon
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Re: Put a JB in my LP Traditional, and not happy... Need suggestions!
^ Does it sound nearly as good if you use a new A2pro instead?
^ Does it sound nearly as good if you use a new A2pro instead?
jaybonitrane
Snickerdoodle Milk
Re: Put a JB in my LP Traditional, and not happy... Need suggestions!
I just thought since he doesnt have one..a used one would save $.
The new ones are wound the same as the old ones...except for Slash set and both are different.
The A8 lead is a little less articulate than what you have now but taking the lead from the neck is now an option. Also the A8 in the bridge will lend some fang to the neck tone.
Sort of what you have happening now is the 57 neck is drainig some fang from the JB bridge.
I just thought since he doesnt have one..a used one would save $.
The new ones are wound the same as the old ones...except for Slash set and both are different.
The A8 lead is a little less articulate than what you have now but taking the lead from the neck is now an option. Also the A8 in the bridge will lend some fang to the neck tone.
Sort of what you have happening now is the 57 neck is drainig some fang from the JB bridge.
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Funkfingers
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Re: Put a JB in my LP Traditional, and not happy... Need suggestions!
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THIS post is my idea of a worthy winner for the Zephyr Silver pickups.
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THIS post is my idea of a worthy winner for the Zephyr Silver pickups.
theycallmegio
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Re: Put a JB in my LP Traditional, and not happy... Need suggestions!
lol, what now?
lol, what now?
CountFeedback
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Re: Put a JB in my LP Traditional, and not happy... Need suggestions!
I find the JB sounds best set with the height a little bit low and the screw poles adjusted around flush with the bobbin of the pup.
also JB sounds better to me with no cover.
The JB will still not be modern metal tight on rhythm, you can Graphic EQ it a bit to get close.
but it sounds like you need an SH-5 Custom
or maybe the Duncan Distortion I have not tried that one.
I find the JB sounds best set with the height a little bit low and the screw poles adjusted around flush with the bobbin of the pup.
also JB sounds better to me with no cover.
The JB will still not be modern metal tight on rhythm, you can Graphic EQ it a bit to get close.
but it sounds like you need an SH-5 Custom
or maybe the Duncan Distortion I have not tried that one.
Jocelyn
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Re: Put a JB in my LP Traditional, and not happy... Need suggestions!
+1 to both of these
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Put a JB in my LP Traditional, and not happy... Need suggestions!
As has been said countless times: JB's work well in some mahogany guitars, and in others are 'atrocious.' And this is from guys who love them in their Strats. The guitar that JB's crash and burn in most often are LP's. What potential buyers need to know is that in mahogany it's a gamble; may work great, or it may produce any of these colorful descriptions quoted from real JB users on this forum: 'ice pick spike', 'dentist drill', 'farty low end', and 'blaring like a cheap old trumpet.' No one said JB's can't work well in mahogany and LP's, it's just that when they don't, it can be unpleasant, and a newbie should know that going into it, so he doesn't wind up thinking we're a bunch of idiots here.
As has been said countless times: JB's work well in some mahogany guitars, and in others are 'atrocious.' And this is from guys who love them in their Strats. The guitar that JB's crash and burn in most often are LP's. What potential buyers need to know is that in mahogany it's a gamble; may work great, or it may produce any of these colorful descriptions quoted from real JB users on this forum: 'ice pick spike', 'dentist drill', 'farty low end', and 'blaring like a cheap old trumpet.' No one said JB's can't work well in mahogany and LP's, it's just that when they don't, it can be unpleasant, and a newbie should know that going into it, so he doesn't wind up thinking we're a bunch of idiots here.
d-shep
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Re: Put a JB in my LP Traditional, and not happy... Need suggestions!
Marshall JVM205H, and a Randall Diavlo RD45.
Marshall JVM205H, and a Randall Diavlo RD45.
jaybonitrane
Snickerdoodle Milk
Re: Put a JB in my LP Traditional, and not happy... Need suggestions!
I almost bought a 210h ...Castles in the Sand"
Hey dont get new 500k tone pots yet....try alnico II pro bridge pup in the neck first.
See Blackouts need special 25k pots. Seymour sells them.
When you are certain that you are headed in the right direction then buy more.
There are some other more expensive ways to solve this problem.
I still say yank the 57 Classic out..it will never keep up no matter which tone pots you buy.
I almost bought a 210h ...Castles in the Sand"
Hey dont get new 500k tone pots yet....try alnico II pro bridge pup in the neck first.
See Blackouts need special 25k pots. Seymour sells them.
When you are certain that you are headed in the right direction then buy more.
There are some other more expensive ways to solve this problem.
I still say yank the 57 Classic out..it will never keep up no matter which tone pots you buy.
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LesStrat
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Re: Put a JB in my LP Traditional, and not happy... Need suggestions!
My first pickup swap was hit/miss. One of the recommended pups sounded weak in the set, despite the fact that it should have worked. I used the return policy and got something that matched better and LesStrat was born.
Every pickup swap is a gamble. The risk is significantly lessened by the generous return policy SD has...which is VOIDED when folks follow your standard recommendation.
My first pickup swap was hit/miss. One of the recommended pups sounded weak in the set, despite the fact that it should have worked. I used the return policy and got something that matched better and LesStrat was born.
Edgecrusher
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Re: Put a JB in my LP Traditional, and not happy... Need suggestions!
Yeah me and Mr Mag swap recently had this argument about the JB and Mahogany. He conveniently ignores any feedback from anyone with a positive view of the JB/Mahog combo. Its also very funny when anyone suggests they dont like an A8 they are automatically dismissed as not knowing "tone" :dot: *shrug*
Yeah me and Mr Mag swap recently had this argument about the JB and Mahogany. He conveniently ignores any feedback from anyone with a positive view of the JB/Mahog combo. Its also very funny when anyone suggests they dont like an A8 they are automatically dismissed as not knowing "tone" :dot: *shrug*
marcello252
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Re: Put a JB in my LP Traditional, and not happy... Need suggestions!
There are many type of Mahogany around also, for example the philippine mahogany used in Epiphones actually is not mahogany, it sounds different even knocking it with the knuckles
Anyway, back to the subject, I think that the SD Custom would be a very good choice.
There are many type of Mahogany around also, for example the philippine mahogany used in Epiphones actually is not mahogany, it sounds different even knocking it with the knuckles
Anyway, back to the subject, I think that the SD Custom would be a very good choice.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Put a JB in my LP Traditional, and not happy... Need suggestions!
It's actually warm woods JB's can have problems with, mahogany being a generic term.
It's actually warm woods JB's can have problems with, mahogany being a generic term.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Put a JB in my LP Traditional, and not happy... Need suggestions!
Again you don't read posts before commenting on them. I speak up on JB's when people recommend them as a first choice for a mahogany/warm-toned guitar. The guy should know that it could work well, as many do, or it could fail in a spectacular fashion, as many do. Then they can make their decision. If it doesn't sound anywhere near what they expected, they aren't blind-sided. If it's an experienced forum member, they probably know how to fix any potential issues with magnets and pots, so I'm not as concerned. If it's a newbie, which it usually is (often with a Hot Rodded set) they're probably paying someone to install it, and certainly don't want to pay again for the labor to replace it, or pay them to swap mags and/or pots. Should that happen, it shouldn't come as a surprise. Let him make that decision, based on knowing how that PU/guitar combination has worked out for forum members. That's why they're here asking us. The 'PU replacement guarantee' doesn't cover the tech's labor while you try to find the best PU for your guitar. That can run up the cost.
JB's are not a universal PU that works for all guitars in all genres. Players here are told of other guitar/PU combinations that often disappoint players, like CC's in LP's, which can and do work well in some, but are often found to be too dark for most people. Or to expect a '59B to be a very bright PU, or Invaders to be very warm, or '59N's can be boomy in LP's. As with JB's, they should know that before they make the purchase, and procede as they deem fit. After all, if they're coming to us for advice, they want to get something that has the highest possibility of working well in their guitar, for the genres they play. I've read too many complaints by forum memebers over the years who were disappointed by JB's in certain guitars, to think that they should be recommended across-the-board. That's simply poor advice, we can do better. JB's are not a versatile PU. If you're playing '80's metal on a Super Strat, by all means, get a JB. You'll probably love it. If you're playing Chicago blues on an LP, or jazz on a hollowbody, JB's are not a 'go to' PU. For many guitars and genres, there are better PU choices, especially with the large selection that Duncan has.
Again you don't read posts before commenting on them. I speak up on JB's when people recommend them as a first choice for a mahogany/warm-toned guitar. The guy should know that it could work well, as many do, or it could fail in a spectacular fashion, as many do. Then they can make their decision. If it doesn't sound anywhere near what they expected, they aren't blind-sided. If it's an experienced forum member, they probably know how to fix any potential issues with magnets and pots, so I'm not as concerned. If it's a newbie, which it usually is (often with a Hot Rodded set) they're probably paying someone to install it, and certainly don't want to pay again for the labor to replace it, or pay them to swap mags and/or pots. Should that happen, it shouldn't come as a surprise. Let him make that decision, based on knowing how that PU/guitar combination has worked out for forum members. That's why they're here asking us. The 'PU replacement guarantee' doesn't cover the tech's labor while you try to find the best PU for your guitar. That can run up the cost.
JB's are not a universal PU that works for all guitars in all genres. Players here are told of other guitar/PU combinations that often disappoint players, like CC's in LP's, which can and do work well in some, but are often found to be too dark for most people. Or to expect a '59B to be a very bright PU, or Invaders to be very warm, or '59N's can be boomy in LP's. As with JB's, they should know that before they make the purchase, and procede as they deem fit. After all, if they're coming to us for advice, they want to get something that has the highest possibility of working well in their guitar, for the genres they play. I've read too many complaints by forum memebers over the years who were disappointed by JB's in certain guitars, to think that they should be recommended across-the-board. That's simply poor advice, we can do better. JB's are not a versatile PU. If you're playing '80's metal on a Super Strat, by all means, get a JB. You'll probably love it. If you're playing Chicago blues on an LP, or jazz on a hollowbody, JB's are not a 'go to' PU. For many guitars and genres, there are better PU choices, especially with the large selection that Duncan has.
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