Put some sEths into my Heritage 535

[Scott_F]

335 clone, hand made by the old Gibson guys in Kalamazoo, MI. put some seths into it. wow. I think they might be the perfect pup in that type guitar.

Warm, smooth, and just aggressive enough to get a superior blues tone. Wow.

My jaw dropped to the floor when I first heard them. Sounds nothing like Seths in a Les Paul. Outstanding is the best word I can come up with.

 

[tone4days]

Re: Put some sEths into my Heritage 535

congrats ... glad to hear it went well ... clips to share the beautious tone?

cheers,
t4d

 

[TheArchitect]

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Cool. Sent my Sheraton in for refret and Seths. Hopeful for a similar result.

 

[midnite_man]

Re: Put some sEths into my Heritage 535

335 clone, hand made by the old Gibson guys in Kalamazoo, MI. put some seths into it. wow. I think they might be the perfect pup in that type guitar.

Warm, smooth, and just aggressive enough to get a superior blues tone. Wow.

My jaw dropped to the floor when I first heard them. Sounds nothing like Seths in a Les Paul. Outstanding is the best word I can come up with.

Scott, were those complimentary Seth's from the factory while you were visiting down there?....LOL

 

[sweet_lou]

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Cool I just left my Washburn HB 30, 335 stlye at the shop yesturday. I am having a pair of Seths put in it.

 

[RiffRaff]

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How do the Seths sound for rock, I don't play high gain rock, more along the vintage lines (Allman bros, early Aerosmith, BTO). I do like the sound of the 59's in my H535 but I'm always looking for something more complex (more overtones), I was thinking antiquities but the Seth's just might be another way to go.

 

[Mac-P]

Re: Put some sEths into my Heritage 535

335 clone, hand made by the old Gibson guys in Kalamazoo, MI. put some seths into it. wow. I think they might be the perfect pup in that type guitar.

Warm, smooth, and just aggressive enough to get a superior blues tone. Wow.

My jaw dropped to the floor when I first heard them. Sounds nothing like Seths in a Les Paul. Outstanding is the best word I can come up with.

Scott,

What's up bro?

You put in a SET (neck & bridge)? I always wondered how the Seth bridge sounded......

I am always concerned that the bridge may be underpowered......

The Seth bridge has the balls and thickness to hang with the Seth neck?

It seems like such an obvious question, but have always been in the head of "more powerful in the bridge" and have gone JB, CC, Air Zone, etc.

The Seth has ALWAYS peaked my interest......

Thoughts?

:burnout:

 

[Scott_F]

Re: Put some sEths into my Heritage 535

Well, first of all, the Seths were not complimentary, I stole them when they weren't looking! :saeek: Actually, I've had them on order for several weeks. Just got them in. I had to get the short-legged versions to fit in that guitar.

I think the Seth bridge is plenty hot enough for the rock/blues stuff I play. I'm currently running it into that 5e3 Tweed Deluxe that is a total meltdown machine. I'm pretty happy with it.

I still prefer a Custom Custom in a les paul bridge, but in this 535, the tone is rather woody, no ice pick at all, and warm as heck. I'm happy.

 

[Simon_F]

Re: Put some sEths into my Heritage 535

I'm very happy with the Seths in my Les Paul. I play mostly classic rock (Lizzy, Zep, AC/DC......) and the bridge pickup has no shortage of power for my needs. Cleans up beautifully too. With a set of CTS 500k audio taper pots and some decent caps a set of Seths will go from raucous classic rock via mean blues to some great clean tones, mellow and jazzy at the neck, spanky and soulful at the bridge - and all without touching the amp!

RiffRaff - Allman Bros, early Aerosmith - Seths will excel at this stuff! And if you're a 'DC fan (Riff Raff?) rest assured they'll do that too!

 

[Lewguitar]

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How could anyone NOT be happy with Seths? To me, they're like going back to the 50's and buying brand new paf's just before they got put in Duane Allman's Les Paul!

Can they get a rock tone??? Those old paf's were used to invent modern rock guitar tone!



Lew

 

[Curly]

Re: Put some sEths into my Heritage 535

Scott,
makes a lot of sense to me that you'd like that combo ... I've been looking at the Hamer Artist, and the combination of a hollow type ax with Seths just makes a lot of sense

enjoy!

 

[Lee_M.]

Re: Put some sEths into my Heritage 535

I can't see how those would be a bad choice. Congrats on the great combo, Scott!

 

[captain cavman]

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Pleased to read this Scott !

I'm fully satisfied with the Seths in my Mc Carty Rosewood and was thinking about putting a set in my PRS hollowbody ! Now I'm sure I will !

 

[Mac-P]

Re: Put some sEths into my Heritage 535

With a set of CTS 500k audio taper pots and some decent caps a set of Seths will go from raucous classic rock via mean blues to some great clean tones, mellow and jazzy at the neck, spanky and soulful at the bridge - and all without touching the amp!

What are some decent caps? I have changed the pots to CTS, but have nevver touched the caps....

 

[Marinblues]

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Excellent choice. They are pure magic in a 335 type guitar.

 

[Simon_F]

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What are some decent caps? I have changed the pots to CTS, but have nevver touched the caps....

I went with .022 Orange Drops, as the consensus here and at the LPF seemed to be that they were a good upgrade from the stock ceramic discs, but I haven't done a lot of research into the various other alternatives. The RS kits seem to include Mallorys or Hovlands. I changed the pots and caps at the same time and haven't actually done any A/B comparisons with other caps - it sounds good and I'm happy with the way the tone rolloff works, so I'm leaving it that way.

 

[Scott_F]

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On the issue of capacitors. Kinda just want to avoid the absolute lowest denominator, cheapest to buy caps that most manufactures use.

When I went from the el cheapos to the orange drops, I *think* I could hear a difference. But, I'm not sure that spending 20 bucks on a "vintage" paper and foil cap will really do that much when you consider how miniscule the amount of current that is generated by a guitar pickup.

On amplifiers, with the huge amounts of current, good caps is essential. I think just get some decent quality caps for a guitar and don't go nuts.

Seths and 335's are really a match made in Heaven. (make that Santa Barbara)

If I wasn't so lazy, I'd drop a set into my mccarty rosewood to see how they sound, but the phat cats are not coming out of that guitar anytime soon.

In my Lester, I'm still running the A2P/ CC combo and I don't see those coming out of that guitar at any point.

Looks like if I want Seths tone, it'll be the 535. If I want more seth tone, I'll have to buy a new guitar. (hmm.... buy a guitar.... hmmm. that never occurred to me)

 

[Stevo]

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I went with .022 Orange Drops, as the consensus here and at the LPF seemed to be that they were a good upgrade from the stock ceramic discs

I am totally with Simon here. I put Seth Lovers and orange drops in my Les Paul, which even looks like Simon's
I was not crazy about the neck version of the SL but it is certainly a nice pickup with lots of tone for the right players. I like the 59 slightly more.

The Seth Lover bridge is great for classic rock. With the A2 edge, and not quite as bright as a 59, I think it's in just the right spectrum.. lots of personality.

Like Simon, I play Marshall tube amps also.. maybe there is a chemistry thing with all of those components. I have tried lots of pickups and the Seth bridge is #1 for my style.

 

[Stevo]

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(hmm.... buy a guitar.... hmmm. that never occurred to me)

yeah right

 

[hacker]

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About a year ago I was playing a Heritage 535 in a guitar store that had amazing tone-notes were 3-D, fat and had a real "bloom" to them. One of the best guitars I've ever heard in my life. I went back a few months later and I asked the sales guy what the pickups were, and sure enough, they were seth lovers.

I recently put a set of seth lovers in a Hamer goldtop and they sounded great as well. they are similar to 59s, but warmer and more complex.

Mac-P: what's up? I am beginning to feel that having a matched pair of humbuckers is the way to go. I've had a pair of seths and a pair of 59s in one guitar, and they mix well and sound great, especially for our tastes.
The 59/59 combo and by far the Seth combo in this Hamer sound better then the 59/JBs in my previous Hamers.