pythagorean tuning?
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EDX
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i know, only was reffering to E with A at 440hz, anyway, some more playing, chords thourgh all the fretboard, and some notes seems to intonate wacky, not bad intonated just wacky "texture", anyway, A=432hz is a cool tool to get a little more originality to anything you're writing.
what i'm still waiting is if somebody can actually confirm playing in 432hz actually makes you playmore relaxed or is just placebo....
i know, only was reffering to E with A at 440hz, anyway, some more playing, chords thourgh all the fretboard, and some notes seems to intonate wacky, not bad intonated just wacky "texture", anyway, A=432hz is a cool tool to get a little more originality to anything you're writing.
what i'm still waiting is if somebody can actually confirm playing in 432hz actually makes you playmore relaxed or is just placebo....
beaubrummels
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I had my guitar Pythagorean tuned, my Isosceles strap on, my Socratic lyrics out, my frets tempered, my pickups tampered, my strings tantrumed, my Philosopher's tone pedal into my Buddha amp and played my Tibetan tones and I became the String Master like never before. I didn't have to worry about whether a JB would work in Mahogany, if '59s are boomy in Les Pauls or if tone is in the wood. I had more than 6 seconds of sustain at the 20th fret and didn't even have to raise or level any frets - because I was levitating over the fretboard with fire and air, and no placebos or medicinal agriculture. But unfortunately, I didn't make any music, either.
I had my guitar Pythagorean tuned, my Isosceles strap on, my Socratic lyrics out, my frets tempered, my pickups tampered, my strings tantrumed, my Philosopher's tone pedal into my Buddha amp and played my Tibetan tones and I became the String Master like never before. I didn't have to worry about whether a JB would work in Mahogany, if '59s are boomy in Les Pauls or if tone is in the wood. I had more than 6 seconds of sustain at the 20th fret and didn't even have to raise or level any frets - because I was levitating over the fretboard with fire and air, and no placebos or medicinal agriculture. But unfortunately, I didn't make any music, either.
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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^Hmm useless timespending then?
^Hmm useless timespending then?
tubecrunch
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You need a zen drive.
You need a zen drive.
Johnny the Kid
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I don't believe in alternate tunings. Sometimes Eb is cool. Other than Eb, I don't believe in alternate tunings. It's become so mainstream to use alternate tunings man. Be a rebel, try E standard.
I don't believe in alternate tunings. Sometimes Eb is cool. Other than Eb, I don't believe in alternate tunings. It's become so mainstream to use alternate tunings man. Be a rebel, try E standard.
MacBradley
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I respect your (lack of) beliefs, but regardless of what you believe...Alternate tunings DO exist.
I respect your (lack of) beliefs, but regardless of what you believe...Alternate tunings DO exist.
Filipe Marquez
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Either way, does anyone know the real reason why people changed it to 440hz?,
Either way, does anyone know the real reason why people changed it to 440hz?,
GuitarStv
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My understanding is that it was like the loudness wars that are occurring now. A symphony tunes up a few cents and it sounds brighter, livlier and more energetic than the competitors. The standard has gone up like 25 cents over the centuries. It appears that as other international standards were being settled on (early 1900's), the reference pitch was added to these standards as well, to help instrument manufacturers dial in on a common tuning. Retuning a string instrument is not that big of a deal, retuning a large brass instrument becomes more difficult.
My understanding is that it was like the loudness wars that are occurring now. A symphony tunes up a few cents and it sounds brighter, livlier and more energetic than the competitors. The standard has gone up like 25 cents over the centuries. It appears that as other international standards were being settled on (early 1900's), the reference pitch was added to these standards as well, to help instrument manufacturers dial in on a common tuning. Retuning a string instrument is not that big of a deal, retuning a large brass instrument becomes more difficult.
Filipe Marquez
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Hm. I'll try and research more into it.
Hm. I'll try and research more into it.
ImmortalSix
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"Tuning" = the intervals between strings
432 Hz with EADGBe is still "Standard Tuning."
Just with a different reference point, i.e. E Standard, Eb Standard.
Tuning Standard with 432 Hz instead of 440 Hz is not a new tuning.
"Tuning" = the intervals between strings
432 Hz with EADGBe is still "Standard Tuning."
Just with a different reference point, i.e. E Standard, Eb Standard.
Tuning Standard with 432 Hz instead of 440 Hz is not a new tuning.
beaubrummels
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Most music worldwide has been tuned to A=440 Hz since the International Standards Organization (ISO) promoted it in 1953.
Most music worldwide has been tuned to A=440 Hz since the International Standards Organization (ISO) promoted it in 1953.
Kamanda~SD
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Definitely alot what your hearing is placebo....your intervals shouldn't sound more 'correct.' Unless the difference is intonating your guitar better haha. The idea behind 432 is that it is supposed to resonate better with you since its a naturally occurring pure tone mathematically, or whatever....been awhile since I looked into it.
Basically, its supposed to FEEL better, not necessarily SOUND better.
the funniest thing is when they say guys like Mozart wrote their music in 432 and all that....yeah, sure. I guess the pitch fork was a little heavy?
EDIT: And by pitch fork I mean tuning fork.
Definitely alot what your hearing is placebo....your intervals shouldn't sound more 'correct.' Unless the difference is intonating your guitar better haha. The idea behind 432 is that it is supposed to resonate better with you since its a naturally occurring pure tone mathematically, or whatever....been awhile since I looked into it.
Basically, its supposed to FEEL better, not necessarily SOUND better.
the funniest thing is when they say guys like Mozart wrote their music in 432 and all that....yeah, sure. I guess the pitch fork was a little heavy?
EDIT: And by pitch fork I mean tuning fork.
Filipe Marquez
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I know, i just don't know why, like the real reason behind it. Or the official justification the ones who changed it gave to the public or to whoever allowed the change.
May be, but i saw a video on the internet showing small recordings of 440 and 432 on a steel stringed acoustic, and the difference was big. In terms of feel, i thought 432 made me feel more calm, but i think the lower the pitch the more calm you will feel either way, 432 or not. I still preferred 440 though.
I know, i just don't know why, like the real reason behind it. Or the official justification the ones who changed it gave to the public or to whoever allowed the change.
May be, but i saw a video on the internet showing small recordings of 440 and 432 on a steel stringed acoustic, and the difference was big. In terms of feel, i thought 432 made me feel more calm, but i think the lower the pitch the more calm you will feel either way, 432 or not. I still preferred 440 though.
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Archer250
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There wasn't really a change if there was no standard in the first place.
Filipe Marquez
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I don't know if there wasn't, but either way i'm looking for the official reason why this and not other frequency.
I don't know if there wasn't, but either way i'm looking for the official reason why this and not other frequency.
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