Question about tube amps

nightwing122087

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Since day one your always told to let the tubes warm up before you start playing. And this is something I've always done no questions asked. But what exactly happens if ya just turn the thing on without doing that? What are the consequences?
 
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I don't think that a signal going through is really bad or good for it before the tubes warm up. I sometimes play while its warming up. Is that bad?
 
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Same thing with letting the amp cool down after playing before you go from "standby" to "off." It's easier on the tubes.
 
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I can't think of a reason why playing while the tubes warm up would hurt them, except it heats them up faster. With anything (especially vacuum tubes with all their precisely-made little bits inside) it's always better to let them warm up slowly. All those bits expand and contract at slightly different rates, so it's best not to rush them.

More important is the question of when the high voltage (B+) gets applied to tubes. Putting B+ on a cold tube (before the filament has the guts warmed up) causes something called cathode stripping, which will shorten the life of the tube.

This is why amps have standby switches - in standby, B+ is shut off. So, you let the tubes warm up, then switch from standby to play. That way, no B+ on cold tubes. This really only effects amps with solid-state rectifiers, since they supply current the instant power is applied.

In amps with tube rectifiers, the recifier tube has to heat up before B+ can flow. THis naturally delays the high voltage, so the other tubes have a chance to warm up, too. So with tube rectos, a standby switch is merely a convenience.

I don't think waiting between standby and off buys you much. More important is letting the amp sit and cool off before you move it. The shock of moving hot tubes (especially if you move it outside into freezing temperatures) is rough on them.
 
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I've seen tubes pop when brought in from freezing temperatures outside and plugged right in and played. This was mostly in rehearsal studios when you bring your own amp, and have limited time to play. This happened more than once to guys in the 80s when I did that. I always gave the amp at least ten minutes at room temperature before I would even turn it on. Then I let it warm up a few minutes before hitting standby. I always felt bad to hear some guy scream from another rehearsal room, then have them tell you what happened later in the hall, lol. Luckily this studio was stocked with amps so all you had to do was use the studio's amp, but still!
 
Re: Question about tube amps

I can't think of a reason why playing while the tubes warm up would hurt them, except it heats them up faster. With anything (especially vacuum tubes with all their precisely-made little bits inside) it's always better to let them warm up slowly. All those bits expand and contract at slightly different rates, so it's best not to rush them.

More important is the question of when the high voltage (B+) gets applied to tubes. Putting B+ on a cold tube (before the filament has the guts warmed up) causes something called cathode stripping, which will shorten the life of the tube.

This is why amps have standby switches - in standby, B+ is shut off. So, you let the tubes warm up, then switch from standby to play. That way, no B+ on cold tubes. This really only effects amps with solid-state rectifiers, since they supply current the instant power is applied.

In amps with tube rectifiers, the recifier tube has to heat up before B+ can flow. THis naturally delays the high voltage, so the other tubes have a chance to warm up, too. So with tube rectos, a standby switch is merely a convenience.

I don't think waiting between standby and off buys you much. More important is letting the amp sit and cool off before you move it. The shock of moving hot tubes (especially if you move it outside into freezing temperatures) is rough on them.

That is some really good info, I never knew there was a difference in the whole standby/power on situation for tube rectification.
 
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