Question from a Newbie

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Kid Rob

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First of all, Hello to the forum and the room. My first post!

I joined because I have a question that some of you who have more experience in the PuPs arena may have and be able to provide some assistance if you're willing.

I posed this question to Support, but I haven't gotten an answer back yet but I thought I may as well find out what the more experienced (are you Experienced) may have to recommend.

I bought a Floyd Rose Flying V. It has a Floyd Rose 1000 Trem. It has two Humbuckers, no Tone Pot, and just a volume control, with a 3 way switch.

I play mainly classic rock and blues, and occasionally some harder rock but no death metal or "doom".

My question is, what PuPs would be best to install in this guitar since it does not have a tone pot, considering what I play (classic rock, blues). I would think that whatever the combination, they would have to "match" well together in the center position which is both pups. I did put a coil splitter as the volume pot, but I don't necessarily have to use it, but it would be great to be able to.

Anyways, thanks for reading and if you have any advice, thanks for your input and may God bless you.
 
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I’d go Alnico Pro 2s which Slash uses or the Pearly Gates which are used by the Reverend Billy G.
 
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I'd say 59n in the neck and a Custom bridge (SH-5) should cover those all of those bases. The neck is good for blues and the bridge is good for rock and heavier styles of blues. Both split well and match in the middle position. They also shouldn't have any issues with the bass thinning out because of the Floyd I don't have the time to give you a cutesy tonal analysis of the pickups right now, but I can do that for you sometime tommorow.
 
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I would check out Saturday Night Specials. Seeing as you have no tone pot, you’d benefit from a more even freq response from the Alnico 4 Magnet in them


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@Christopher: I checked out that config and I have to say that its impressive. Do you know if this config set supports F string spacing for the Floyd? If it does, I may pull the trigger and see I can snag this setup. But I'm going to wait to hear from Support before I make my final decision, but I do like the demo sounds of that config. Nice! Thanks man!
 
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I don’t know that for sure. But what I do know is, if you contact the custom shop, they’ll get you the config you need.

I believe it ought to be - Short Leg, Trem spacing, Single conductor. I recommend keeping the covers. Or rather just trust their solution, they might just wind something specific to your requirements keeping everything you mention in mind


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If you REALLY crave a tone pot and don't wanna drill holes, you COULD install a stacked potentiometer (2-tier pot-in-a-pot)

Classic rock and hard rock? Probably JB/Jazz, JB/59, or DiMarzio Super Distortion & PAF 36... or a Pearly Gates set / maybe a Pearly Gates Plus bridge pup for more bluesy tones

Be sure to get an Fspaced trembucker for the bridge pickup to get the right size for a floyded instrument. The Duncan model codes for Fspaced pickups are TB-## instead of the normal corresponding SH-##
 
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Adieu said:
If you REALLY crave a tone pot and don't wanna drill holes, you COULD install a stacked potentiometer (2-tier pot-in-a-pot)

Classic rock and hard rock? Probably JB/Jazz, JB/59, or DiMarzio Super Distortion & PAF 36... or a Pearly Gates set / maybe a Pearly Gates Plus bridge pup for more bluesy tones

Be sure to get an Fspaced trembucker for the bridge pickup to get the right size for a floyded instrument. The Duncan model codes for Fspaced pickups are TB-## instead of the normal corresponding SH-##
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Thanks Adieu. I could do that, as I know Steve Morse of the Dixie Dregs says he sometimes uses his treble pot to roll back the highs when vocals start instead of rolling back the volume. When vocals come in its more about blending into the back ground and treble pots can achieve that, or a combination of volume and treble for dynamics in the mix, which a lot of "bar bands" fail to do. Dynamics is very important during a performance as you don't want to keep everything "at the same level" throughout the performance because the mix starts to get stale and "old". I've seen a lot of good players and bands but they don't use no where near the dynamics they should. I think its important to keep the audience's attention with the use of dynamics so that they start to crave the big crescendo or lead etc so that when it does happen it has more impact. But of course, all you old school pros and semi pros already know all that.
 
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Without a tone control, I’d put Whole Lotta Humbuckers. Made to match in the middle, play rock, and with rough cast A5s have the just the right amount of treble that’s smooth and not shrill without any tone control. Pearly gates are bright, the Custom is bright, they need a tone control unless your amp is dark.
 
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I have no issue with the Custom (which by the way comes in Floyd Rose spacing and with 4 conductors to allow for coil splitting) being too bright in a mahogany Gibson, but depending on who you are that could be an issue if you lack a tone control. I say +1 on concentric pots.
 
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Chistopher said:
I have no issue with the Custom (which by the way comes in Floyd Rose spacing and with 4 conductors to allow for coil splitting) being too bright in a mahogany Gibson, but depending on who you are that could be an issue if you lack a tone control. I say +1 on concentric pots.
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Thanks Chris. The "Configurator" match that I like is a 59 in the neck and Custom 5 Trembucker in the bridge. Not sure how they'll sound with no tone pot though and just getting the raw tone the pups produce. Still haven't heard back from Support on their suggestion.
 
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If you find them to be too bright, but don't want a tone control, you can always wire a 510k resistor in series to ground to replicate the effect of having a 500k tone pot loading your circuit.
 
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6stringerguy said:
I’d go Alnico Pro 2s which Slash uses or the Pearly Gates which are used by the Reverend Billy G.
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I put in 2 Slash Signature Alnico Pro 2's in my Epie Explorer, of course unlike your guitar I have 2 vol & 1 tone controls but I hardly EVER! Use the tone control (always full treble). So I agree with 6stringerguy go with the Slash Alnico's.
 
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The Slash A2P set does not come stock with the ability to coil split, fyi.
 
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Just got an answer from support.

They suggest a 59 in the Neck position with a JB in the Bridge. According to support, they will pair together well in the center position (both PuPs activated) and the unique voicing of the PuPs will compliment each other using each pup's unique sound.

Already ordered the 59 neck.

Next month is the JB in the Bridge

Thanks to all who took the time to share their thoughts, ideas, and experience. I appreciate it! You guys rock! \m/

Kid Rob
 
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Kid Rob said:
Just got an answer from support.

They suggest a 59 in the Neck position with a JB in the Bridge. According to support, they will pair together well in the center position (both PuPs activated) and the unique voicing of the PuPs will compliment each other using each pup's unique sound.

Already ordered the 59 neck.

Next month is the JB in the Bridge

Thanks to all who took the time to share their thoughts, ideas, and experience. I appreciate it! You guys rock! \m/

Kid Rob
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Awesome man, best of luck with it. Out of curiosity, did they recommend any particular magnets?


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Chistopher said:
If you find them to be too bright, but don't want a tone control, you can always wire a 510k resistor in series to ground to replicate the effect of having a 500k tone pot loading your circuit.
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But wouldn't that simulate a 250k volume pot? If it was me, I'd put the 500k resistor in series with a .022uf cap to simulate a tone control on "10". Or, convert the volume control to a tone control and then use a volume pedal.
 
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Karan D. Taktawala said:
Awesome man, best of luck with it. Out of curiosity, did they recommend any particular magnets?


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No, they didn't say anything about any particular magnets, so I'm assuming that I should just use the "default" pickup with whatever magnets they use. The Bridige PuP I currently have installed on the V right now is a Dragon Fire Screamer, which is a nice pickup with ceramic magnets and its got like 15k million volts of power. But the neck pup is also a Dragon Fire Screamer and when you combine them in the center position its, um....awkward... 0_o ...I think is a good term??
 
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