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If you use a compass or other pickup, can you confirm the magnet was flipped? If so it seems like the RW part just didn’t make it. (Would they typically just reverse the coil connections of B/W and R/G to do this?)
Questions about my 'Do It All' Wiring
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If you use a compass or other pickup, can you confirm the magnet was flipped? If so it seems like the RW part just didn’t make it. (Would they typically just reverse the coil connections of B/W and R/G to do this?)
Jack_TriPpEr
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Mincer's current conundrum seems to another example of what I was talking about in this recent thread:
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/for...r-compass-measurements-of-any-new-pup-you-get
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/for...r-compass-measurements-of-any-new-pup-you-get
Jack_TriPpEr
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Seems like SD practice when making a RWRP pup is that Green and White will be +, and Red and Black will be the - wires, based on what Mincer reported here and how the Neck SH-1 that i reported on recently - that I found to be RWRP - had the same thing going on with its wires.
I know that NOW...haha
Jack_TriPpEr
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Just recalled something Artie explained a couple months ago, that drives me to modify my last comment. I said that apparently SD wires their RWRP humbuckers so that Green and White are +, and Red and Black are -. However, Artie pointed out in that thread, that simply flipping a magnet will cause the *electrical* polarity to change. So, SD didn't do anything special or different in wiring of the two SD-made RWRP pups we have officially observed (Mincer's and mine). The electrical polarity changed simply due to the mag flip.
Ref. replies # 21 through 23 in this thread:
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/foru...22#post6074422
Ref. replies # 21 through 23 in this thread:
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/foru...22#post6074422
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This may be the case, here. BTW, neck is north, bridge is south.
Jack_TriPpEr
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Not following what you mean by "neck is north, bridge is south". You've got humbuckers, not singlecoils. Therefore two coils per pickup, each with its own magnetic polarity. So TWO magnetic polarities per pickup. So which coil are you talking about when you say Neck is North? And which coil are you talking about when you say Bridge is South?
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Sorry, I was just giving you the adjustable coils..so
neck screw: north
neck slug: south
bridge slug: north
bridge screw: south
now I realize this, I probably should have checked this to begin with.
Jack_TriPpEr
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K, gotcha now, thanks.
The magnetic polarities you just reported for the Neck pickup make total sense for one that is RWRP.
beaubrummels
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Depending on the guitar, normally I have the cavity shielded and the main flange or body of the switch contacts that shield as blade tip and screws push through the holes in either the pickguard or the body, however it's assembled. I can't recall having a buzz issue with a super switch / blade type otherwise.
While I don't have much to add as a solution to your troubles, I do have a fair amount of experience with this wiring scheme.
The Fender Blacktop Strat HH has that setup but each pickup uses a separate Tone control. I bought one of those guitars back in 2010 or so and totally loved the flexibility. The BHK pickups that came stock in it were eventually replaced with a SD Pearly Gates neck and a Custom Custom Trembucker bridge.
I had to rewire the whole thing from scratch and I did away with the second Tone control, making just like your "Do It All" wiring. I initially had issues with the 2 and 4 positions being noisy but flipping the magnet in the CC took care of that.
With these pickups and this wiring scheme, I can (and have!) use this one guitar for everything.
Good luck getting yours sorted out!
The Fender Blacktop Strat HH has that setup but each pickup uses a separate Tone control. I bought one of those guitars back in 2010 or so and totally loved the flexibility. The BHK pickups that came stock in it were eventually replaced with a SD Pearly Gates neck and a Custom Custom Trembucker bridge.
I had to rewire the whole thing from scratch and I did away with the second Tone control, making just like your "Do It All" wiring. I initially had issues with the 2 and 4 positions being noisy but flipping the magnet in the CC took care of that.
With these pickups and this wiring scheme, I can (and have!) use this one guitar for everything.
Good luck getting yours sorted out!
Thanks! It seemed easy when I did it on the other guitars. The neck pickup in this set being rw/rp is throwing me.
Jack_TriPpEr
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Mincer, I didn't understand that you were still having trouble with this wiring scheme. I will take a look at it later tonight.
Jack_TriPpEr
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I've been wiring up my new Warmoth with my Do It All wiring and a new 5 way Superswitch. I am getting some unexpected results so I was wondering what I was doing wrong, since I've been staring at it too long...
Originally I had to flip a magnet on the neck pickup. This neck pickup is completely rw/rp so that's what is messing me up. Wiring it like this diagram (below), I had to reverse the neck green & black to be in phase. Problem is the 2 & 4 positions, which are giving me either neck side coils or bridge side coils together, in phase and humbucking instead of the inside coils & outside coils in phase and humbucking. So I am guessing this has to do with the reverse polarity. So, is this possible with a rw/rp pickup? The sounds I am getting now aren't bad at all, just not what I am used to. Can this diagram be altered to get what I need?
Spotted the problem.
On the pole of the superswitch where the Neck pup Series Link Pair is attached to the Common of that pole, the destinations of lugs 2 and 4 need to be reversed. Lug 2 needs to goto Ground, and lug 4 needs to goto Hot.
Also, I am assuming that for the Neck pickup, you are using Green wire as Hot and Black wire as Cold because you said that the Neck pickup is a RWRP type.
Let me know how that mod wotks.
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Jack_TriPpEr
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I've been wiring up my new Warmoth with my Do It All wiring and a new 5 way Superswitch. I am getting some unexpected results so I was wondering what I was doing wrong, since I've been staring at it too long...
Originally I had to flip a magnet on the neck pickup. This neck pickup is completely rw/rp so that's what is messing me up. Wiring it like this diagram (below), I had to reverse the neck green & black to be in phase. Problem is the 2 & 4 positions, which are giving me either neck side coils or bridge side coils together, in phase and humbucking instead of the inside coils & outside coils in phase and humbucking. So I am guessing this has to do with the reverse polarity. So, is this possible with a rw/rp pickup? The sounds I am getting now aren't bad at all, just not what I am used to. Can this diagram be altered to get what I need?
Also, just FYI, that diagram does not work correctly either if it was the Bridge pickup that had a mag flip instead if the Neck pickup. In that case, lugs 2 and 4 of the poles with the Series Link Pairs would also go in opposite places like in my last reply, just in reverse order. Whereas this diagram says that lugs 2 and 4 go the same destination types for both pickups.
Yes, the neck's black and green were swapped. This made every combination back in phase (and hum-cancelling). So, swapping lug 2 & 4 will keep phase and hum-cancelling while swapping out which coils are active?
I think it actually was the neck pickup that had the mag flip in the original guitar. The diagram is indeed wrong.
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