R9 developed a neck twist =( Hellooooooooo PRS! =)

Christopher Caruana

Christopher Caruana

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Absolutely CRUSHED! my Les Paul R9 developed a twist in the neck. It was still playable, but it honestly bugged me from a mental standpoint to where I didn't want to play it. So I traded it off and picked me up the next best thing.

and oh yeah....shes a 10 top :19:

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Wow! That's BEAUTIFUL! Shame about the R9. Any idea why did that happen?

That top is stunning. It looks very similar to one of Rob Chapman's PRS:

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The only thing I can think of is that I bought it NOS. it was a late 2014 model. When I first took it out of its case at the store it was way out of tune and who knows how long it was sitting like that. So maybe once I took it home, set it up and put stress on the wood after 2.5 years of sitting, the stress may have caused the warpage. Or it may have been that the wood was not properly dry. Who knows
 
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thats a beautiful guitar and kinda surprising on the r9. if you bought it new, gibson shoulda fixed it
 
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jeremy said:
thats a beautiful guitar and kinda surprising on the r9. if you bought it new, gibson shoulda fixed it
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The only issue with that is, the place i bought it from is no longer a certified gibson retailer. They dropped a few years ago and the les pauls were just what was left over. So I could have tried to fight it, technically when I bought it, it wasn't from a "dealer" per say. I bought it because I got a huge discount. But they told me when I bought it that it didn't come with a warranty
 
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bummer. if it was cheap enough, i woulda re-radiused the neck and refretted it but thats a fair amount of work or $$$
 
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jeremy said:
bummer. if it was cheap enough, i woulda re-radiused the neck and refretted it but thats a fair amount of work or $$$
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It was one of those things where I the amount of money I spent on it and the amount of excitement I had for it.....and then it honestly just broke me when after 2 months, I noticed it had developed. It just killed me to the point where I didn't even want to play it
 
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Very nice, personally I wouldn’t be too sad!
 
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Funny...I've been thinking about trading my beat-to-hell R9 on a 594. That poor guitar was abused by a previous owner, though it plays well and sounds great. But the 594 has really caught my eye.

Congrats! You have a beauty.

Bill
 
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Curious about th finish- is it the V12? That V12 finish is basically the same as Warmoths water thin Poly Gloss or satin it appears. I don't know of PRS still finishes some of their model in Nitrocellulose, as stated here, but not sure how old this reference is;

[h=2]6. What kind of finish does PRS use?[/h] In our history, most of our instruments have been finished with a polyester base coat and acrylic urethane topcoat. We feel acrylic urethane looks and feels the close to the old nitrocellulose finishes but avoided the issue of future finish checking. Several PRS models, including our Sunburst, Satin, Modern Eagles, and DGT models use a nitrocellulose finish in order to provide the classic feel and tone of vintage instruments.
In 2010, PRS Guitars introduced its new V12 finish. This finish was developed over 12 years, and it is intended as a midpoint between nitro and acrylic with a classic feel all its own. V12 is extremely thin to allow the guitar to resonate, but it is still incredibly durable with no risk of reacting to leather or guitar stands in a negative way.
 
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MetalManiac said:
Curious about th finish- is it the V12? That V12 finish is basically the same as Warmoths water thin Poly Gloss or satin it appears. I don't know of PRS still finishes some of their model in Nitrocellulose, as stated here, but not sure how old this reference is;

[h=2]6. What kind of finish does PRS use?[/h] In our history, most of our instruments have been finished with a polyester base coat and acrylic urethane topcoat. We feel acrylic urethane looks and feels the close to the old nitrocellulose finishes but avoided the issue of future finish checking. Several PRS models, including our Sunburst, Satin, Modern Eagles, and DGT models use a nitrocellulose finish in order to provide the classic feel and tone of vintage instruments.
In 2010, PRS Guitars introduced its new V12 finish. This finish was developed over 12 years, and it is intended as a midpoint between nitro and acrylic with a classic feel all its own. V12 is extremely thin to allow the guitar to resonate, but it is still incredibly durable with no risk of reacting to leather or guitar stands in a negative way.
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Yep it has the V12 finish. Like it says, its supposed to be a cross of both nitro and poly
 
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Christopher Caruana said:
Yep it has the V12 finish. Like it says, its supposed to be a cross of both nitro and poly
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well, there techically is no such thing as a Poly-Nitro Cross/hybrid finish, so I am guessing, as I said, The V12-it's pretty much the same as Warmoths Poly coat;

Regarding the Nitrocellulose vs. Polyurethane topic, the Warmoth factory Polyurethane finish is a high quality finish and not at all like cheap Poly finishes found on cheap guitars:

What may be giving you the impression your Polyurethane finish is thicker ( than Nitrocellulose) is "exotic" woods get a coat of some kind of special sealer that keeps the oils in and allows the finish to adhere. Something like Ash or Alder wouldn't get that coat. Also, clear polyurethane finishes really are "water clear", while lacquer isn't. This gives the illusion of greater depth. Finally, polyurethane doesn't shrink like lacquer does, so over the course of a couple years a lacquer finish will appear to get thinner, but there are still the same amount of solids on the surface of your part.
On the Warmoth site, they say:

"WHAT FINISHING MATERIALS DO WE USE?

Urethane is our primary finishing material though we do use several thin coats of polyester as a base coat to fill the wood grain [ As does Nitro]. The process is first to fill the grain, then the color coat is applied. Finally the top coats are laid down before final sanding and buffing. If the body is dyed, these colors are put on the raw wood prior to the base coat application. There seems to be much controversy about finishing materials and poly seems much maligned...Without sinking into the depths of this debate, let us just say that our finishes seldom exceed twelve thousandths on an inch in thickness. For the lacquer fans, there are others that spray this material though the cost is generally at least double for a very questionable sonic difference. (emphasis added)".
 
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