radio stations coming through my amp using 1 specific guitar

fwr1982

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So I have 3 Sg's and when one is plugged in with distortion pedal on tone turned to 0 and the strings deadened I get a radio station coming through. This only happens with this SG not the other 2 - so I'm thinking it might be some sort of grounding issue with the pickups on that specific guitar? Any input would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Microphonics? (unpotted pickup problem afaik)

But all in all, what that's saying is it's a crappy SG. Who made it, Gibby or a knockoff?
 
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Its not fake; it's a 2001 SG Gothic - I'm thinking it may be pickup damage.
 
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Yup, wax potting fell apart.

Gothic's actually one of the better series...but Gibson is one of the WORSE manufacturers :) SG Supremes are alright, Standards are tolerable but absolutely nothing to write home about, Gothics were rather welldone, but the cheaper-than-SG-Standard stuff today? ABSOLUTE CRAP.
 
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Yup, wax potting fell apart.

Gothic's actually one of the better series...but Gibson is one of the WORSE manufacturers :) SG Supremes are alright, Standards are tolerable but absolutely nothing to write home about, Gothics were rather welldone, but the cheaper-than-SG-Standard stuff today? ABSOLUTE CRAP.

I have to disagree with this BS entirely. You have been saying Gibsons/Epiphones are crap recently without ever actually saying what is crappy about them. Tell us why they are so crap, be specific, and tell us how many cheaper Gibsons you have played and for how long.

Either shielding, microphonics, or both. For microphonics:

- You can try using a hair dryer to melt any wax inside and let it reflow throughout the pickup. That may work.
- Pot the pickup entirely by dipping it in melted wax.

To melt the wax, you can either use heat or a vacuum. The vacuum lowers the melting point to below room-temperature by decreasing the air pressure to below atmospheric pressure (the natural balance of pressure is what keeps us from being crushed by atmospheric pressure, which is a lot higher than you'd think) in an enclosed space. This will completely melt the wax into a liquid incredibly fast and you do not have to worry about heat ruining a pickup. The vacuum would also remove all the air from the pickup instantaneously allowing the wax to flow in and have the whole process done in at most 5 minutes.

To use heat, you can put the wax in/on a heat source, such as using a double-boiler on the stove, melting the wax in a low-temperature set oven (be careful, wax is why a candle burns), open flame etc. Once the wax is a complete liquid, you usually don't need much of a heat source if one at all, and you can dip the pickup in and let it sit for about 10-15 minutes or until no more air bubbles are coming out from the pickup.

Shielding:

Shield all cavities in the guitar. You can use any type of foil or foil-tape, such as aluminum foil or copper foil-tape, Just tape aluminum foil covering the entire cavity, and ground the foil. Make sure there is connection between all pieces of foil for maximum effect.
 
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Yup, wax potting fell apart.
Jesus Christ are you serious?! Microphonics cause feedback. Grounding issues cause RFI. So you're telling me wax shields a pickup from RFI?
 
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Gibson is one of the WORSE manufacturers :) SG Supremes are alright, Standards are tolerable but absolutely nothing to write home about, Gothics were rather welldone, but the cheaper-than-SG-Standard stuff today? ABSOLUTE CRAP.

Are you kidding me? Are you trolling for comments? I have a SG Special that is a beast, I love that guitar. I have never had a problem with it. I also own a Les Paul Traditional Pro that is one of the nicest guitars I have ever owned in my life. I am curious how many Gibsons you have owned? To say a SG or a Gibson is not your style or preference of guitar is fine, to call them crap makes me question your knowledge of guitars.
 
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I have to disagree with this BS entirely. You have been saying Gibsons/Epiphones are crap recently without ever actually saying what is crappy about them. Tell us why they are so crap, be specific, and tell us how many cheaper Gibsons you have played and for how long.

I sell and upgrade Gibsons for clients. Pretty regularly. Sub-$2k Gibson are UTTERLY KOREAN-LEVEL, and I don't mean no LTD Deluxes neither. Taking LTD for comparison since Schecters don't have the convenience of numeric model numbers, they're all at the 300-400 series level. Forget good old Japanese stuff, even Korean 600-series LTD's annihilate Gibsons on their home turf.

...and yeah, I put EMGs into Gibsons, rip em out of Gibsons, and put Gibson pups in LTDs often enough to know what I'm talking about.

Oh, yeah, and anybody who thinks EMGs are utter ****e that can never sound good needs a date with a real ESP Standard. A used ESP Standard Eclipse can be had for about the price of a 50-60-70s Tribute, new one for about what, a Trad Pro? NO COMPARISON. And if you like passives too much to care, they come with JB/something sets (JB-59 afaik?). Me, I reaaaaally don't like that set, but hey, still utterly superior to anything non-Custom Shop outta Gibson these days.

And, hey, if you don't like modern stuff, go play a Greco. Or even buy a freakin Aria, swap out those dried pots, maybe upgrade the pickups. Maybe even drop in a Gibson set to see just how much better it gets.

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GIBSON I'VE HAD MY HANDS ON(!) AND *IN* (!!) OVER THE LAST YEAR (in just a year!!!) - AS IN OWNED, TOOK APART, PUT TOGETHER, TWEAKED, UPGRADED, FLIPPED:

Gibson LP 50s trib - bought to flip (BIG MISTAKE. currently in my possession, UTTER ****e I can't seem to get rid off, currently has a set of EMGs and even that can't sound passable in it)
Gibson Flying V Standard - bought to flip, de-activated, ripped out EMG 81-85 set, threw in a custom guard and a different set of pickups for a client
Gibson SG Standard - bought to flip, rebuilt to order - asked by client to gut it and throw in an EMG 81-81 set (why? dunno, don't really see the point). SOUNDS OKAY - buuuut, nothing spectacular, plenty of cheaper ways to achieve the same
Gibson Flying V Gothic - actually preeeetty NICE.... but out of print. pity. flipped in all of - wait for it - FOUR HOURS after being posted up. at a huge profit. KA-CHING!! ...i like gothics hehe
Gibson Melody Maker "Explorer" - bought to flip, returned cuz it was just tooo bloody awful and unflippable, mods or no mods.

Also: Gibson SG Ebony/Moons Faded - owned 10 years ago. BLAAAAAND - traded away asap

Hands on, not in, didn't buy (last year):
Gibson Flying V Faded + 2x Pearly Gates - looked over a lot, declined to buy. if you'd asked me before if anything could bugger up the sound of a Pearly, I'da called ya crazy
Gibson Les Paul Standard - LIKEABLE - except the price. pales in comparison to cheaper vintage Grecos, new ESP Standards, and other fun stuff in the next isle. would play, WOULDN'T buy
Gibson Explorer - COOL. well, even a couple years back they were oh so much better
Gibson SG Faded - awww, they got sooo much worse now than the good old fadeds of 10 years back
Gibson LP Studio 1991 - LIKED. didn't have the $500 on me
Gibson LP Studio 2012 - gaaaaawds. NO.
Gibson LP 60s Tribute - ooh, worse than the new Studio
Gibson LP Faded - FIREWOOD
Gibson Melody Maker SG - upgraded to the 9s, across the board, Shallers new humbucker new bridge new pickguard - all for $200. DECLINED. sounds like driftwood, SORRY.
Gibson Flying V Melody Maker - all-around horrible too
Gibson SGJ - wtf was that???? horrid
Gibson LPJ - same
Gibson LP recently out labelled "NAMM something or other", Zebra hums, boost, coil taps - OK, i'll give em that one
Gibson Nighthawk Studio (or was it special? who knows) - WORST. CRAP. EVER. - doesn't sound passable no matter what
Gibson Firebird Studio (or special, again who knows) - can't remember. at all. musta been spectacularly boring, considering.

...i know I'm forgetting a whole bunch of stuff, but hey, average guitars are like unspectacular women - first dozen, you still remember everything about, after that it all gets kinda fuzzy. it JUST DOESN'T DO MUCH ANYMORE, UNLESS IT'S SPECTACULAR

btw, guitars I found spectacular in that same period? ok sure:
the MIJ Fender Pawnshap with the Pearly Gates and the blend knob (awesome!), whole bunch of unknown brands from Matsumoku (Westminster, Quest, japanese Washburn), a bunch of old FujiGen stuff - mostly E-series Squiers, vintage Ibanezes (especially basses!), but also others, REAAAALLY dug old Grecos, SURPRISINGLY found old Arias likable, absolutely ADORED esp Vintage Plus (and I'm not even much of a strat person), kinda dug the ESP Eclipse (shocker - dislike most of the LTD line that supposedly mimics it), found the cheaper USA PRS's nice enough if you want something more to compare to Gibson - yeah I'd rather take a Mira or something, found the KOREAN PRS's still better than the low-end Gibsons but not spectacular, liked a vintage Yamaha superstrat from Taiwan of all places, a couple old Peavey USA's were shockingly passable too

to my surprise kinda liked an LTD EC 600 just the way it was (although it was UTTERLY UNLIKE the real Eclipse), and found an LTD Viper 400 quite decent --- AFTER rewiring the whole damn thing and cleaning it up and setting it up (sorry Korea, dream on of being the next Japan - no time soon!!).. what I dislike about Epi? that it can't measure up to LTD on powerful pups, or to PRS Korea on vintage-voiced pups. simple enough, yeah?

PS I'm 27, kiddos... brand worship wore off once work had me dig around in all their guts and find nothing to write home about

oh, and:
PPS tested/declined means I ran them through an amp that costs 4 digits and still found em boring
 
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to me its gotta be a funny thing hearing radio stations come through your guitar and into your amp!
i gotta laugh at such crap.
 
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I sell and upgrade Gibsons for clients. Pretty regularly. Sub-$2k Gibson are UTTERLY KOREAN-LEVEL, and I don't mean no LTD Deluxes neither. Taking LTD for comparison since Schecters don't have the convenience of numeric model numbers, they're all at the 300-400 series level. Forget good old Japanese stuff, even Korean 600-series LTD's annihilate Gibsons on their home turf.

...and yeah, I put EMGs into Gibsons, rip em out of Gibsons, and put Gibson pups in LTDs often enough to know what I'm talking about.

Oh, yeah, and anybody who thinks EMGs are utter ****e that can never sound good needs a date with a real ESP Standard. A used ESP Standard Eclipse can be had for about the price of a 50-60-70s Tribute, new one for about what, a Trad Pro? NO COMPARISON. And if you like passives too much to care, they come with JB/something sets (JB-59 afaik?). Me, I reaaaaally don't like that set, but hey, still utterly superior to anything non-Custom Shop outta Gibson these days.

And, hey, if you don't like modern stuff, go play a Greco. Or even buy a freakin Aria, swap out those dried pots, maybe upgrade the pickups. Maybe even drop in a Gibson set to see just how much better it gets.

********************************

GIBSON I'VE HAD MY HANDS ON(!) AND *IN* (!!) OVER THE LAST YEAR - AS IN OWNED, TOOK APART, PUT TOGETHER, TWEAKED, UPGRADED, FLIPPED:

Gibson LP 50s trib - bought to flip (BIG MISTAKE. currently in my possession, UTTER ****e I can't seem to get rid off, currently has a set of EMGs and even that can't sound passable in it)
Gibson Flying V Standard - bought to flip, de-activated, ripped out EMG 81-85 set, threw in a custom guard and a different set of pickups for a client
Gibson SG Standard - bought to flip, rebuilt to order - asked by client to gut it and throw in an EMG 81-81 set (why? dunno, don't really see the point). SOUNDS OKAY - buuuut, nothing spectacular, plenty of cheaper ways to achieve the same
Gibson Flying V Gothic - actually preeeetty NICE.... but out of print. pity.
Gibson Melody Maker "Explorer" - bought to flip, returned cuz it was just tooo bloody awful and unflippable, mods or no mods.

Also: Gibson SG Ebony/Moons Faded - owned 10 years ago. BLAAAAAND - traded away asap

Hands on, not in, didn't buy (last year):
Gibson Flying V Faded + 2x Pearly Gates - looked over a lot, declined to buy. if you'd asked me before if anything could bugger up the sound of a Pearly, I'da called ya crazy
Gibson Les Paul Standard - LIKEABLE - except the price. pales in comparison to cheaper vintage Grecos, new ESP Standards, and other fun stuff in the next isle. would play, WOULDN'T buy
Gibson Explorer - COOL. well, even a couple years back they were oh so much better
Gibson SG Faded - awww, they got sooo much worse now than the good old fadeds of 10 years back
Gibson LP Studio 1991 - LIKED. didn't have the $500 on me
Gibson LP Studio 2012 - gaaaaawds. NO.
Gibson LP 60s Tribute - ooh, worse than the new Studio
Gibson LP Faded - FIREWOOD
Gibson Melody Maker SG - upgraded to the 9s, across the board, Shallers new humbucker new bridge new pickguard - all for $200. DECLINED. sounds like driftwood, SORRY.
Gibson Flying V Melody Maker - all-around horrible too
Gibson SGJ - wtf was that???? horrid
Gibson LPJ - same
Gibson LP recently out labelled "NAMM something or other", Zebra hums, boost, coil taps - OK, i'll give em that one


PS I'm 27, kiddos... brand worship wore off once work had me dig around in all their guts and find nothing to write home about

...You missed the entire question. So I'll ask one more time:

What is so wrong about Gibson? Why are they so terrible?

All you have done is say "Terrible" or "Sounds bad", with the occasional "bought to flip" (which I may add is the DUMBEST reason to buy a guitar unless you work in retail). You could afford a Gibson LP 50s Tribute AND a set of new EMGs but you can't buy a $500 Gibson 1991 Studio LP? Either you are the biggest moron when it comes to resale and money management, or you are so full of BS your eyes are turning brown (if not brown already).

Some advice: You absolutely NEED to tone down your attitude and language otherwise you will not last another month on the forum, and NO ONE here will respect you, or ever try to help you. You sure act like you're a delusional 12 year old for claiming to be 27 years old.
 
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Go, join Spïnal Tap.
 
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SURPRISINGLY found old Arias likable

So you are a hipster, thats cool if that is what it is about.

Sub-$2k Gibson are UTTERLY KOREAN-LEVEL

What aspect? Electronics? Design? Tone? I don't think there is anyone on these boards that wouldn't like to own this "Sub-2K" SG

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/gibson-angus-young-signature-electric-guitar

I don't know what your deal with Gibson is but I find them playable all the way through the Epiphone line. Maybe if you stop stripping Gibsons and throwing EMGs in them and take a step back to really hear the guitar you might like them.
 
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So I have 3 Sg's and when one is plugged in with distortion pedal on tone turned to 0 and the strings deadened I get a radio station coming through. This only happens with this SG not the other 2 - so I'm thinking it might be some sort of grounding issue with the pickups on that specific guitar? Any input would be greatly appreciated.

I hope you don't get charged rebroadcast fees.
 
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Adieu is much older than you I guarantee that. I still maintain that hes a familiar troll who has been around these parts before.

Yeah I guess he really is 27. He better realze soon that he doesn't know everything. I listen to people that I respect that are my seniors when they tell me I know a few things, but far from everything. No one here knows everything, and confidence is often confused with arrogance.
 
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Yeah I guess he really is 27. He better realze soon that he doesn't know everything. I listen to people that I respect that are my seniors when they tell me I know a few things, but far from everything. No one here knows everything, and confidence is often confused with arrogance.

He knows this... Its part of being a troll.
 
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And I'm even older... Get off my lawn!


Get off the grass...


something like that.


what was I saying again ?

Oh Yeah; and what else were you doing when you were 16 ?
Also: Gibson SG Ebony/Moons Faded - owned 10 years ago. BLAAAAAND - traded away asap
 
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So I have 3 Sg's and when one is plugged in with distortion pedal on tone turned to 0 and the strings deadened I get a radio station coming through. This only happens with this SG not the other 2 - so I'm thinking it might be some sort of grounding issue with the pickups on that specific guitar? Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Poor grounding and/or shielding... could be a bad cable, but you said it was specific to that particular guitar..
 
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