rank HB (necks) by amount of squish

[ToneFiddler]

whole duncan range if possible but happy for any feedback.

least squish -> most squish

specially interested in demon, 59n, jazzN, PGn, sentient, APH-1, WLHn

 

[Demanic]

"Squish"?

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[Mincer]

Well, the higher the output, the less touch-sensitivity you get (the more compressed it sounds/feels).

 

[weepingminotaur]

Yeah, trying to understand what squish means in this context.

 

[Mincer]

I was guessing compressed, but maybe I am wrong.

 

[ToneFiddler]

^^sorry, maybe i am using the wrong term.

i am taking about the attack. it’s not super immediate. it sounds kind of squishy. especially on the lower frets up until about the 9th fret. maybe HONK is what i mean???

never experienced this with single coils…

this clip has has that quality all over it:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_con...ture=emb_title
it‘s kind of a very woody but loose attack and sound.
typical old school les paul.
which pickups have less of it. which pickups have more

 

[weepingminotaur]

I've always thought of "honk" as referring to nasally mids, which some like and others don't. The clip sounds great but I don't know what part of it sounds squishy, lol.

But woody with loose attack makes more sense to me. So you want a neck HB ranking of "squish", but you see squish as a positive thing. Got it!

 

[GuitarDoc]

I don't think of the Demon, Pearly, or Jazz as having "squish" or "honky".

 

[Mincer]

After listening to the clip, the Seth Lover comes to mind immediately. Most Alnico II vintage output humbuckers can get that. The Alnico II Pro is another one.

 

[jafo]

A2 and fewer/vintage windings is indeed the key. A2 in a JazzN has a lot in common with the A2Pro.

 

[ToneFiddler]

A2 and fewer/vintage windings is indeed the key. A2 in a JazzN has a lot in common with the A2Pro.

if not everything. it‘s the same coils.

the A2Ps where my first aftermarket PUs but i sold them when i wanted a more metal sound. but i remember them as being very buttery. Never really used the neck back then, so i don‘t remember any woodiness.
slash neck tone is great, maybe i should guve them another try.

actually i want both.
in one guitar i want a more immediate sharp attack. and in the other some if that touch responsive squeezing out the notes.

guess the APH-1/SH-1 is my best bet and just a mag swap away?

if they went too far i guess the PGn is between them?
(that’s why i asked for the ranking)

 

[Demanic]

I wonder how a Jazz n would sound with an A4 in it?

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[ToneFiddler]

I wonder how a Jazz n would sound with an A4 in it?

i am more curious about a 59n with an A4 but mine has a cover, so i am not too keen

 

[beaubrummels]

That clip just sounds like 'Woman Tone' to me. The amp and rolling the tone off can make that sound with lots of pickups in a Les Paul, as long as the pickup is also bright to start with (you can hear some bright snap to the tone through the darkened wooly EQ on it.). The 'squish' in that attack typically comes from a tube rectified amp, though an A2-based pickup might have some of that to it (but not all A2 pickups do - Pearly Gates are an exception, they are brighter and tighter than any other A2 based pickup.)

A 59n, PGn, APH-1, WLHn all could make that tone, with slightly different amp and guitar tone settings. A 59n/A4, PGn would be my first choices. WLHn or APH1n would be my second tier of choices.

 

[Demanic]

i am more curious about a 59n with an A4 but mine has a cover, so i am not too keen

I have one of those in the neck of my Blackjack. Wired to a five way that splits it in the 4th position. I think that it sounds more vintage than the stock version. I put a polished A4 in mine, no cover. It's bright and powerful with slightly more mids and not as boomy in the low end.
The Blackjack has a lot of natural lows, so the stock 59n just overdid them.

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[jafo]

I wonder how a Jazz n would sound with an A4 in it?

“Tonal Viagra” is how I described it about a decade ago. I had a stock JazzN in a mahogany slab: it was floppy, weak, and shapeless, and the A4 stiffened it (albeit a bit too much; “tonal priapism,” perhaps?). These days, I prefer A3 for a little chime and a bit more off the bottom.

 

[jafo]

re: my comment about an A2 Jazz N:

if not everything. it‘s the same coils.

Hunh, no kidding? I could've sworn one of the Duncan reps wrote in the forum that it wasn't so... but that was a very long time ago. Cool.

 

[eclecticsynergy]

re: my comment about an A2 Jazz N:



Hunh, no kidding? I could've sworn one of the Duncan reps wrote in the forum that it wasn't so... but that was a very long time ago. Cool.

A2P and Jazz use the exact same coils; it's the JB vs Distortion that's been the subject of much debate.
Some firmly believe them to be identical winds, but insiders have said they aren't. Same DCR, but not the same wind pattern.

 

[eclecticsynergy]

I think the OP is talking more about tightness.
Tightest to loosest I'd probably say: JazzN-Demon-59N-WLHn-PGn-A2Pn
Can't speak to the Sentient, never owned or even used one.

 

[Mincer]

I think the OP is talking more about tightness.
Tightest to loosest I'd probably say: JazzN-Demon-59N-WLHn-PGn-A2Pn
Can't speak to the Sentient, never owned or even used one.

Sentient could be on either side of the Jazz above. It is pretty tight.