Rantings of a life long Les Paul fanatic (new SD pups content)

ckisgen

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So I'm fortunate to have owned dozens of guitars in my lifetime. Many were real beauties (Gretch's, PRS McCarty and Customs, several Gibsons..hollow and solid body, Strats, Hamers, the list goes on). I'm 34 and have been playing for over 20 years now. I'm definitely a gear head but never really ventured much into modifying my guitars much beyond stock. I did have the pickups upgraded and new tuners put on my first serious electric guitar as a teenager (made in Japan 60s reissue Fender Strat) but other than finally ditching the awful Klusons for Grovers on my Les Paul last year I'm not sure I've done anything else to any of my guitars I've owned. In all honesty, most of them probably didn't "need" much help.

Long story long, I bought a brand new wine red Les Paul Standard back in 1997 (I was 15). This ended up being one of the only guitars I held onto while many many others came and went. I'm not even sure I can say it was even necessarily better than every single one of the others that came in and out of my life, and some of it may have just been chance at the time as to why something else got sold and I kept that one. But eventually over time, I realized how much I genuinely loved my Les Paul. Both Les Pauls in general (the looks, the vibe, the sound, the icons that have played them, etc) - as well as this one specifically. It just fits and feels right.

Other than the tuning head upgrade I mentioned, I've been playing all these years with the stock Gibson wiring/electronics (300k pots, stock caps, etc) as well as the stock pickups. After going through dozens of amps as well and playing some other Les Pauls, I began to entertain the notion a couple of years ago that I possibly didn't really care for the 490R and 498T combination. This seed has grown inside of me into a full out hatred of them. Now in a way I'm thankful for them, as I believe it's probably made me a much better musician..learning to succeed and find my way to good tone with such a mismatched pickup combination (not to mention the mud-saucey sludge that is my neck pickup). I've gotten many compliments on my tone over the years with it in the many local bands and venues I've played by fellow musicians and the like.

I say all of that to finally say - hallelujah. Thanks in large part to my lurking and reading these forums for the last couple of years..I'm ecstatic to report that I dropped off my 97 Standard at a trusted luthier's shop last week for a complete rewire (500k CTS pots, PIO caps) and a cow bone nut. He told me he'd also swap the pickups out for me for no extra charge while he is was in there doing everything else if I wanted. So I jumped at the chance and spent the last few days making a really hard decision. I'd narrowed it down to either the 59s, APH-2s, or the Seth Lovers. I finally settled on a matching set of Seth Lovers ($189.99 brand new, no tax and free 2 day shipping..thanks Amazon Prime..wow).

So with any luck..by this weekend I should have this baby back all freshly made over. I'm not sure I can put into words how pumped I am. Here's to hoping I bond with the Seths as much as I think I'm going to...(hell, after nearly 2 decades with the 490R/498T..it's hard to fathom I'd be disappointed with much of anything!)

My Mesa Express and AC30 (90s Korg era UK made with Greenbacks) are anxiously awaiting...drink one for me and _______ tonight (I refuse to name my guitars).
 
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I too have been dissatisfied with the pups in my LP. But I've had such a hard time trying to decide what pups to use in my LP Traditional. I've even bought pickups and they're sitting on the desk still because I've been thinking about the whole 300k pot thing as well...trying to decide if I want to leave the current pickups in and try 500k pots before switching everything out.

I hope the Seth model blows you away when you get that LP back in your hands!
 
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I too have been dissatisfied with the pups in my LP. But I've had such a hard time trying to decide what pups to use in my LP Traditional. I've even bought pickups and they're sitting on the desk still because I've been thinking about the whole 300k pot thing as well...trying to decide if I want to leave the current pickups in and try 500k pots before switching everything out.

I hope the Seth model blows you away when you get that LP back in your hands!

Thanks!

Yeah, to be honest, I'd sorta planned on doing exactly that first myself too. Just upgrading pots and caps and then re-evaluating from there. I accelerated my timeline when the tech told me he'd install them for no extra charge (if I bought the pickups naturally).

But I'm almost certain that even if I'd gone the other route first, that I would have ended up wanting to swap pickups sooner than later.

Trying to EQ an amp, let alone 3 - 4 OD pedals (I have a problem) is incredibly challenging with the 490R/498T combination. In several bands, I would play the entire night solely on the bridge pu with the tone rolled back a bit. Which isn't necessarily a bad way to go but when I started playing in contexts where more tonal variety was called for, I started really having a hard time.
 
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Sounds like we have some similar tastes. The first LP I fell in love with was a wine red Standard, probably an early '90's model. I've still never owned one, but hopefully some day! And I also have a Mesa Express (Plus 5:25 model).

I also find most of Gibson's stock LP pickup offerings to work just fine (the big exception is LPs that came with a 500T and/or a 496R). For the most part, one can do most things pretty well with them; if you can't, it's your fault, not the pickups'. That said, there certainly are better choices if you want to make the guitar more specialized, i.e. to give it a different "base" tone in order to idealize it for a certain type of playing. IMO, there are no better traditional-blues-to-hard-rock pickups for a LP than Seth Lovers with 500K pots.

At any rate, I think you've made good choices, and I hope you like how the guitar turns out. You won't notice an enormous difference in the neck position, but you'll find yourself having to dig in a lot more, and/or setting your pickup a lot higher, at the bridge position in order to get the kind of output you're used to. there. Realize that it won't be like it was, embrace that as a good thing, learn to play it how it is now, and I'm sure you'll like it. Find yourself missing the way it has been for 20 years, and unable to adapt, and you probably won't dig it. Good thing is you can always go back to stock.
 
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I'm a Lester fan as well and own a couple of them. The pickups are always the weakness in a new Gibson. They normally suck!
I feel your pain, you should however love the Seths. They are the cats ass and then some..
 
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I love wine red LPs.

The 498T, not so much. It really is a pickup that I think is made to give the user a big kick when picking up the guitar for the first time. In a guitar shop, through an amp you don't know. So that you buy the guitar. I don't see how a person in love with more commonly associated LP sounds will be happy with it much longer than testing out a couple things.

Ironically the closest SD equivalent is the C5, but the C5 is much more "alive" than the 498T. And the C5 ends up with people deliberately choosing a commando class pickup, not the other way round.
 
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Seths in an LP are a thing of beauty. Let's see this LP, and even better, let's hear it!
 
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Let me see what I can dig up..
Standby.

You're going to get a ton more highs and more vintage voice overall, you'll likely need to re-EQ at the amp/pedals. Also expect more touch sensitivity (I think you made a great choice). Depending how loud you play, there could be some feedback issues.

Personally I love Seths -they deliver the PAF goods. It was the very first Duncan I tried back in '96 -it was relatively new at the time and took about 4 months for my music shop to get them on custom order.
 
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You have to play really loud right in front of the amp to get them to squeal. I think the tone outweighs any disadvantages, though.
 
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