Real or "fake" Duncan EVH78

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Roosje Urbach

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A client asked me to build a pickup into his guitar. It's supposed to be a Duncan Custom shop EVH78 bridge humbucker.

The box states:
Custom Wound for: American Musical Supply
Pickup#: 116567
Pickup Type: 78 Model
Magnet: Alnico II
DC Resistance: 9. K
Gauss: 22
Date: Nov 01 2007
Custom Wound By: MJ

The pickup only has the regular sticker that reads:

RoHS IVI78
SH1B-20070508
It has a DC resistance of 8.33Kohm (4.14K slugpole, 4.19K screwpole), very much like a regular SH1B. Also the date code seems suspicious.

My question is: Is this a real custom shop EVH78, or is it a SH1B in a custom shop box? I'd just like to inform my client correctly. All help appreciated.

Thanks, Roosje
 
Re: Real or "fake" Duncan EVH78

Looks like you have '59B in a '78 box...

Here is what you should have

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Re: Real or "fake" Duncan EVH78

Classic case of somebody buying a new pickup and putting the old one into the new pickup's box.
 
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could be different for the netherlands as it would have to be RoHS compliant to ship there...

but that DC reading is rather low. Pics would help us out.
 
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Thanks for the replies so far, and thanks Ayrton for the picture!

I was suspicious, thats why I posted. Still would like some more feedback, as the RoHS Code reads IVI78 (78 in there). Yes I am in the Netherlands, and we have RoHS here.
Also it's a pickup from 2007.

This is quite important to me, as my client teaches electric guitar at the conservatory, and also plays at major TV & theatre shows. I'd really like to inform him correctly about this.

But yes it seems someone sold him a box with the old pickup in it.. As a guitartech it's never nice to sell someone bad news and have them pay for the installation at the same time..
 
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translation from dutch:
@roosje Urbach: welke gitarist? = @roosje Urbach: which guitarist?

Sorry Orpheo, my professional ethics prevent me to disclose the name of my client on this public forum.
 
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Re: Real or "fake" Duncan EVH78

Yep, the box it came in sounds legitimate, as I've seen '78s wound for American Musical Supply and sold at the retail level, but the info found on the actual pickup is for a standard production '59 bridge model and is definitely NOT a '78!!!
 
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I will make enquiries how and where my client got this pickup, and post about this when I know. More info is welcome, especially from the duncan custom shop. Who is "Custom Wound By: MJ"

Of course the box (& MJ) is real, just like to find out who exactly is not to be trusted here. I just can't believe the custom shop measures 9.K and it really measures 8.33.
Did the custom shop use regular labels for these pickups in 2007?

If this really is a rip off, I'd really like to find out where and by whom it happened, just to satisfy my client and perhaps make a certain internetsalesperson less reliable.
 
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I'd say he bought it off Ebay or some other site used, and the seller either simply put in an unmodded 59b as a scam, or did some sort of magnet swap following internet rumors (i.e. "put an A2 in a 59 and you get a 78, cuz that's what EVH did").

However, it's leaning more towards "hah, I just screwed some guy in Europe by selling him a 59 for the price of an EVH lolz I rule"
 
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LoFiBrian said:
could be different for the netherlands as it would have to be RoHS compliant to ship there...

but that DC reading is rather low. Pics would help us out.
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All the new pickups I've seen have the RoHS but it wouldn't change the resistance. It's a statement that everything used to make the pickup conforms to RoHS standards.
 
Re: Real or "fake" Duncan EVH78

WTF.

If it said SH1b it's a 59.

It is very common for pickup boxes to have the pickup that was replaced in them.
 
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Roosje Urbach said:
If this really is a rip off, I'd really like to find out where and by whom it happened, just to satisfy my client and perhaps make a certain internetsalesperson less reliable.
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MJ is Marciela Juarez, the head of the Custom Shop.
The rip off is that someone sold a 59b in a case of a Custom Shop 'bucker. Blame the seller.
I have seen offers with Korean generic buckers sold in SD Boxes as SD Pickups. Simply as that.
RoHS is a European Guide Line that says only not poisonous materials (in this case lead free solder) should be used in electronic gear. The RoHS number contains a 78, but this happend simply by chance.
 
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