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recessed or non-recessed floyd - What do you like??
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Re: recessed or non-recessed floyd - What do you like??
I am completely in love with the dive only Floyd. I do t have a good reason besides Eddie Van Halen. Seriously, have you heard that man play? It’s remarkable.
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I am completely in love with the dive only Floyd. I do t have a good reason besides Eddie Van Halen. Seriously, have you heard that man play? It’s remarkable.
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Sirion
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Re: recessed or non-recessed floyd - What do you like??
I do not care one way or the other when it comes to playability. I think non-recessed looks cooler, but my vote nevertheless goes to recessed for the simple reason that it removes the need for shims or other micromanagement of the neck pocket.
I do not care one way or the other when it comes to playability. I think non-recessed looks cooler, but my vote nevertheless goes to recessed for the simple reason that it removes the need for shims or other micromanagement of the neck pocket.
Re: recessed or non-recessed floyd - What do you like??
That's a very good point. Many top-mounted floyds have a back-angled neck like my old late 80s Charvel (which was neck-thru but still back-angled)
The neck itself having back-angle (like a Les Paul of course) actually feels better to my left arm and hand,,,,,,,,but I'm still going with recessed overall.
That's a very good point. Many top-mounted floyds have a back-angled neck like my old late 80s Charvel (which was neck-thru but still back-angled)
The neck itself having back-angle (like a Les Paul of course) actually feels better to my left arm and hand,,,,,,,,but I'm still going with recessed overall.
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Silence Kid
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Re: recessed or non-recessed floyd - What do you like??
I think it's much more ergonomic to have the strings higher off the body (as if they're on their own 'stage' from which you can pick them.) Close to the body, I feel like I have to dig in way farther than it is comfortable to do without conscious effort.
I think it's much more ergonomic to have the strings higher off the body (as if they're on their own 'stage' from which you can pick them.) Close to the body, I feel like I have to dig in way farther than it is comfortable to do without conscious effort.
Chistopher
malapterurus electricus tonewood instigator
Re: recessed or non-recessed floyd - What do you like??
I like nonrecessed because you don't have those gosh darned tuning issues and I don't really use them all that often for anything other than dives anyway.
If I find the time one day I'm going to buy one of the pre-production Floyd Rose reissues that don't have the fine tuners and mount it flush with the body. Then on the other side of the guitar I'm going to put a zero fret, roller tees, and locking tuners. If it stays in tune I think I'll do it to more of my guitars.
I like nonrecessed because you don't have those gosh darned tuning issues and I don't really use them all that often for anything other than dives anyway.
If I find the time one day I'm going to buy one of the pre-production Floyd Rose reissues that don't have the fine tuners and mount it flush with the body. Then on the other side of the guitar I'm going to put a zero fret, roller tees, and locking tuners. If it stays in tune I think I'll do it to more of my guitars.
Sirion
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Re: recessed or non-recessed floyd - What do you like??
There is a distinction that seems to be lacking in some of the comments here: non-recessed does not equal dive-only, but will still be able to pull up at enough that one at least can do a decent warble. Remember the coin on EVH's guitar? That was put there to make it dive-only; it is not the natural state of a non-recessed Floyd. To be honest I find the idea life-denying, but to each their own.
There is a distinction that seems to be lacking in some of the comments here: non-recessed does not equal dive-only, but will still be able to pull up at enough that one at least can do a decent warble. Remember the coin on EVH's guitar? That was put there to make it dive-only; it is not the natural state of a non-recessed Floyd. To be honest I find the idea life-denying, but to each their own.
Chistopher
malapterurus electricus tonewood instigator
Re: recessed or non-recessed floyd - What do you like??
If you want a floating Floyd, why would you intentionally limit the upward range?
If you want a floating Floyd, why would you intentionally limit the upward range?
Silence Kid
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Re: recessed or non-recessed floyd - What do you like??
His point is even non-recessed floyds have some pull-up and are floating. "Flush mounted" would be a different distinction from "non-recessed."
His point is even non-recessed floyds have some pull-up and are floating. "Flush mounted" would be a different distinction from "non-recessed."
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Sirion
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Re: recessed or non-recessed floyd - What do you like??
Thanks, that is exactly it. Even non-recessed Floyds have enough room to do a lot of fun upwards bending – just listen to Brad Gillis! The main difference isn't what one can do with the Floyd (even if the recess is usually deep enough to give a little more room to pull the stings sharp), but rather the distance between the strings and the body, and the angle the neck is attached to the body. Flush mounting is another thing entirely, and does in some ways resemble the feel of a recessed Floyd more than a non-recessed one, since the whole system sits much closer to the guitar body – the exception of course being cases like the Frankenstrat, where a protruding appendage has been added to allow the Floyd to be mounted higher.
Thanks, that is exactly it. Even non-recessed Floyds have enough room to do a lot of fun upwards bending – just listen to Brad Gillis! The main difference isn't what one can do with the Floyd (even if the recess is usually deep enough to give a little more room to pull the stings sharp), but rather the distance between the strings and the body, and the angle the neck is attached to the body. Flush mounting is another thing entirely, and does in some ways resemble the feel of a recessed Floyd more than a non-recessed one, since the whole system sits much closer to the guitar body – the exception of course being cases like the Frankenstrat, where a protruding appendage has been added to allow the Floyd to be mounted higher.
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Re: recessed or non-recessed floyd - What do you like??
Range really isn't an issue unless you were going Jack Butler on it and holding/shaking the whole guitar by the bar.
It's more about how far you prefer the strings to sit over the body and if or if not you prefer any pitch to the neck.
Even on a non-recessed floyd the strings won't sit as high off the body as they do on the typical LP/hardtail, but still a good bit higher than a recessed.
There's a subtle difference between top-mount and recessed when it comes to hand/arm positioning.
On a back-angled neck (top-mounts often are) your left elbow can stay just a little closer to your own body,,,,,,,I like that.
On a recessed your right elbow can stay closer,,,,,,I like that too, so for me it's a trade-off, but I prefer recessed overall.
Important to note; (IMO)
On a top-mount with back-angled neck you should not set the floyd's base parallel with the guitar's body, you should set it parallel with the strings so that when you sight down the strings (looking from nut to bridge, like looking down a pool-cue for straightness) the bridge angle should match the string's angle.
Range really isn't an issue unless you were going Jack Butler on it and holding/shaking the whole guitar by the bar.
It's more about how far you prefer the strings to sit over the body and if or if not you prefer any pitch to the neck.
Even on a non-recessed floyd the strings won't sit as high off the body as they do on the typical LP/hardtail, but still a good bit higher than a recessed.
There's a subtle difference between top-mount and recessed when it comes to hand/arm positioning.
On a back-angled neck (top-mounts often are) your left elbow can stay just a little closer to your own body,,,,,,,I like that.
On a recessed your right elbow can stay closer,,,,,,I like that too, so for me it's a trade-off, but I prefer recessed overall.
Important to note; (IMO)
On a top-mount with back-angled neck you should not set the floyd's base parallel with the guitar's body, you should set it parallel with the strings so that when you sight down the strings (looking from nut to bridge, like looking down a pool-cue for straightness) the bridge angle should match the string's angle.
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