Recessed VS. Non-Recessed Trems
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MattPete
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Re: Recessed VS. Non-Recessed Trems
Got both. Ordered a recessed on a Warmoth, and if I could do it again, I would have ordered non-recessed.
A non-recessed sits above and parallel to the body (ala my 80s Kramer Pacer, or a standard Fender Stratocaster bridge). You can pull up, but not as far as a recessed. It does give you the option of laying it back and resting against the body, which in turn gives you a fuller sound (you can only dive-bomb if you set it up that way). You do not have that option with a recessed bridge.
Personally, I don't think the increased range for pulling up is worth losing the option of resting the back of the trem against the top of the body.
Got both. Ordered a recessed on a Warmoth, and if I could do it again, I would have ordered non-recessed.
A non-recessed sits above and parallel to the body (ala my 80s Kramer Pacer, or a standard Fender Stratocaster bridge). You can pull up, but not as far as a recessed. It does give you the option of laying it back and resting against the body, which in turn gives you a fuller sound (you can only dive-bomb if you set it up that way). You do not have that option with a recessed bridge.
Personally, I don't think the increased range for pulling up is worth losing the option of resting the back of the trem against the top of the body.
PFDarkside
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Re: Recessed VS. Non-Recessed Trems
Can you post a pic of the non-recessed in a floating position? (Where you can pull up, but it's parallel to the body?)
Can you post a pic of the non-recessed in a floating position? (Where you can pull up, but it's parallel to the body?)
phil_104
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Re: Recessed VS. Non-Recessed Trems
I feel differently. I have a recessed trem on one of my guitars, and it is set up so that the tone is great when it is in "nutral" position. I know some people feel that its not worth it to do it to pull up, but I think that it gives you more options. The only thing I would say is that a recessed one is more trouble, because you need to make sure it is always in top shape.
That being said, I do have a non-recessed on a strat, and it is nice to have close to no care required for it, but for me, I love being able to pull in both directions.
I feel differently. I have a recessed trem on one of my guitars, and it is set up so that the tone is great when it is in "nutral" position. I know some people feel that its not worth it to do it to pull up, but I think that it gives you more options. The only thing I would say is that a recessed one is more trouble, because you need to make sure it is always in top shape.
That being said, I do have a non-recessed on a strat, and it is nice to have close to no care required for it, but for me, I love being able to pull in both directions.
JB_From_Hell
Jomo's Nimions
Re: Recessed VS. Non-Recessed Trems
I had a Charvel Model 6 with a non-recessed trem, but allowed a bit of upward travel when set parallel. It's just a matter of the trem not sitting directly on top of the body. My Kramer Focus is setup the same way.
I had a Charvel Model 6 with a non-recessed trem, but allowed a bit of upward travel when set parallel. It's just a matter of the trem not sitting directly on top of the body. My Kramer Focus is setup the same way.
SonofaMitch
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Re: Recessed VS. Non-Recessed Trems
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sosomething
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Re: Recessed VS. Non-Recessed Trems
The only problem with non-recessed that I see is that it sets a limit on how low you can adjust string action.
I've seen guitars where the bridge was lowered all the way down and touching the body but the action was still too high, or higher than it could/should be. At that point your only option is trying to get it a little lower via neck relief, and that's never good to do.
The only problem with non-recessed that I see is that it sets a limit on how low you can adjust string action.
I've seen guitars where the bridge was lowered all the way down and touching the body but the action was still too high, or higher than it could/should be. At that point your only option is trying to get it a little lower via neck relief, and that's never good to do.
PFDarkside
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Re: Recessed VS. Non-Recessed Trems
Or neck shims, right?
Or neck shims, right?
sosomething
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Re: Recessed VS. Non-Recessed Trems
Yeah, you could go that route. Might take a pretty thick shim, though - and then you've got this huge disparity between the visual plain of the neck/strings and the plain of the body.
I don't know if there's any great solution in that scenario.
Yeah, you could go that route. Might take a pretty thick shim, though - and then you've got this huge disparity between the visual plain of the neck/strings and the plain of the body.
I don't know if there's any great solution in that scenario.
Biu
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Re: Recessed VS. Non-Recessed Trems
So does blocking the trem make your strings feel more stiff? I really love the loose, speedy feel of my Peavey Falcon's double-locking Kahler, but I just never use the whammy anymore, so I'm considering blocking the trem for more stability and sustain. I really don't wanna lose that feel it has right now.
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So does blocking the trem make your strings feel more stiff? I really love the loose, speedy feel of my Peavey Falcon's double-locking Kahler, but I just never use the whammy anymore, so I'm considering blocking the trem for more stability and sustain. I really don't wanna lose that feel it has right now.
sosomething, your avatar is the uber tits. River City Ransom is one of my top ten NES addictions
Kamanda~SD
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Re: Recessed VS. Non-Recessed Trems
I float 2 of my 3 strats bridges (going to block one though so I can have one of my main ones for alternate tunings. One has a vintage trem and one has a floyd. In my experience, if your using the trem it actually stays in tune better once it is floating.
I float 2 of my 3 strats bridges (going to block one though so I can have one of my main ones for alternate tunings. One has a vintage trem and one has a floyd. In my experience, if your using the trem it actually stays in tune better once it is floating.
Re: Recessed VS. Non-Recessed Trems
one of the reasons i love the top mounted Floyd is because of the extra long block the operation of the trem feels slightly smoother.. that little bit of extra leverage from the slightly longer trem block really helps the trem move easier... Plus i enjoy the feeling of the strings being slightly higher off the body
i also love the way it can rest on the body... saddly it is getting harder to find those trem blocks that are longer for top mount.... i have a few tall blocks off a few wrecked Schaller style Floyds from the late 80's...
only way to really enjoy a top mounted floyd is to have a strat body that has an angled neck pocket to reduce the need for shims.. I find it odd Warmoth offers this option but they do not offer the taller blocks for their floyds...
one of the reasons i love the top mounted Floyd is because of the extra long block the operation of the trem feels slightly smoother.. that little bit of extra leverage from the slightly longer trem block really helps the trem move easier... Plus i enjoy the feeling of the strings being slightly higher off the body
i also love the way it can rest on the body... saddly it is getting harder to find those trem blocks that are longer for top mount.... i have a few tall blocks off a few wrecked Schaller style Floyds from the late 80's...
only way to really enjoy a top mounted floyd is to have a strat body that has an angled neck pocket to reduce the need for shims.. I find it odd Warmoth offers this option but they do not offer the taller blocks for their floyds...