Recommend me a DAW!
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TrippyVinylologist
Re: Recommend me a DAW!
You have the best if you get the latest version imo, even 8 is everything you need - I'm on Logic 5.0 on my PC. The only thing I would consider is Sonar only because people say it has a great sound engine, not sure if it's PC only though.
You have the best if you get the latest version imo, even 8 is everything you need - I'm on Logic 5.0 on my PC. The only thing I would consider is Sonar only because people say it has a great sound engine, not sure if it's PC only though.
ksmith63
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Well I am looking for something with advanced editing like elastic audio/flexwave/whatever. Saves tons of time and is invaluable in recording people that don't practice like they f-ing should. Logic 8 doesn't have this and I am on the "student" version so there is no upgrade to Logic 9....have to buy the whole thing. If I am buying the whole thing, might as well shop around.
Well I am looking for something with advanced editing like elastic audio/flexwave/whatever. Saves tons of time and is invaluable in recording people that don't practice like they f-ing should. Logic 8 doesn't have this and I am on the "student" version so there is no upgrade to Logic 9....have to buy the whole thing. If I am buying the whole thing, might as well shop around.
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TrippyVinylologist
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Doesn't Logic express have that? It's only $200.00 Otherwise look into Ableton Live, I also like Reason Record. not sure if it has time stretch.
Doesn't Logic express have that? It's only $200.00 Otherwise look into Ableton Live, I also like Reason Record. not sure if it has time stretch.
ksmith63
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It does, however it does not have 3 key features of Logic Pro: Logic Node, Delay Designer and Space Designer. Could probably use Express just for the flexwave but I've got some projects lined up for the summer and want everything under one program. May have to go with logic just for those features.
I have Protools LE with Elastic audio and switching back and forth is a complete pain. Also my Mbox mini 2 interface has recently died (!) so protools is now completely useless. Also it would crash my core audio every time I would shut down my computer, limited me to 48 tracks and slowed everything down due to unnecessary customization. Not a fan.
I will do some research on Sonar, Albeton and Reason.
Thank you for the reply.
It does, however it does not have 3 key features of Logic Pro: Logic Node, Delay Designer and Space Designer. Could probably use Express just for the flexwave but I've got some projects lined up for the summer and want everything under one program. May have to go with logic just for those features.
I have Protools LE with Elastic audio and switching back and forth is a complete pain. Also my Mbox mini 2 interface has recently died (!) so protools is now completely useless. Also it would crash my core audio every time I would shut down my computer, limited me to 48 tracks and slowed everything down due to unnecessary customization. Not a fan.
I will do some research on Sonar, Albeton and Reason.
Thank you for the reply.
DankStar
Her Little Mojo Minion
Re: Recommend me a DAW!
I like logic express cause it's cheap and I'm dumb as a rock. I don't do much crazy stuff with it, just typical mixing, use of audio units, some automation of volumes sometimes. It'd be kind of cool to have the convolution reverb and eq matching of the full version, but for the price difference, I can use my ears to eq and Ive got other ways to do convolution and cabs.
I like logic express cause it's cheap and I'm dumb as a rock. I don't do much crazy stuff with it, just typical mixing, use of audio units, some automation of volumes sometimes. It'd be kind of cool to have the convolution reverb and eq matching of the full version, but for the price difference, I can use my ears to eq and Ive got other ways to do convolution and cabs.
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TrippyVinylologist
Re: Recommend me a DAW!
I personally don't like convolution reverbs unless they are mixed with other reverbs, they sound fake and lifeless to my ears, so I wouldn't be hung up on that. Use more delays and less reverbs and you'll be more contemporary in the mix department.
Virtual Kevorkian
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Odd, I far prefer convolution-based reverbs to impulse-based reverbs for everything but room verbs.
I'm not a big Logic fan, I feel sluggish and slow in it. Cubase is what I'm most comfortable/fastest in, and the slip editing it has that ProTools lacks is what keeps me using it over PT (I have PT9 as well) for 99% of what I do.
Latest version of Cubase kinda sucks - see if you can get a used copy of 5 (or NOS) and see if that tickles your fancy. If not, it's hard to go wrong with PT if you spend some time learning it. I'd recommend, regardless of which DAW you go with, getting a month subscription to Groove3.com and watch their videos on the program.
Odd, I far prefer convolution-based reverbs to impulse-based reverbs for everything but room verbs.
I'm not a big Logic fan, I feel sluggish and slow in it. Cubase is what I'm most comfortable/fastest in, and the slip editing it has that ProTools lacks is what keeps me using it over PT (I have PT9 as well) for 99% of what I do.
Latest version of Cubase kinda sucks - see if you can get a used copy of 5 (or NOS) and see if that tickles your fancy. If not, it's hard to go wrong with PT if you spend some time learning it. I'd recommend, regardless of which DAW you go with, getting a month subscription to Groove3.com and watch their videos on the program.
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TrippyVinylologist
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I was hoping I'd really like them especially when I got some EMT plate impulses. They just didn't sit well in the mix without adding another reverb to them. To each his own.
I was hoping I'd really like them especially when I got some EMT plate impulses. They just didn't sit well in the mix without adding another reverb to them. To each his own.
Virtual Kevorkian
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Sorry, completely misspoken on my part - meant to say that I far prefer algorithmic reverbs to convo/impulse based, just jumbled convo/algo in my head briefly.
Sorry, completely misspoken on my part - meant to say that I far prefer algorithmic reverbs to convo/impulse based, just jumbled convo/algo in my head briefly.
ksmith63
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Will look into Groove3.com.
What don't you like about Cubase 6? I need a new interface and was looking at the yamaha/steinberg mr816csx. It's obviously integrated for cubase + can be found super cheap. Also the yamaha/steinberg controller is really nice/cheap used.
Will look into Groove3.com.
What don't you like about Cubase 6? I need a new interface and was looking at the yamaha/steinberg mr816csx. It's obviously integrated for cubase + can be found super cheap. Also the yamaha/steinberg controller is really nice/cheap used.
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y2stevo
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+1
Reaper is great, it's only about $60 to purchase it in Full and It's as functional as protools, don't let the price fool you! :approve:
give it a quick look www.reaper.fm is the website
+1
Reaper is great, it's only about $60 to purchase it in Full and It's as functional as protools, don't let the price fool you! :approve:
give it a quick look www.reaper.fm is the website
Virtual Kevorkian
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Those interfaces rule, definitely not a bad choice by any means! The onboard DSP is super handy, as well.
The problem with C6 is that it was, more or less, released as beta... there are a ton of bugs and issues with it that haven't been updated yet, but a C6 license will open SX3, C4, and C5, so if you can get a hold of an install DVD or .iso rip, you can legally use any of those programs until C6 get's updated properly.
Those interfaces rule, definitely not a bad choice by any means! The onboard DSP is super handy, as well.
The problem with C6 is that it was, more or less, released as beta... there are a ton of bugs and issues with it that haven't been updated yet, but a C6 license will open SX3, C4, and C5, so if you can get a hold of an install DVD or .iso rip, you can legally use any of those programs until C6 get's updated properly.
ImmortalSix
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I have a Logic Pro 8 license and I use Reaper.
I have a Logic Pro 8 license and I use Reaper.
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ksmith63
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I am comfortable with Logic but am far from learning all of the ins/outs. I was thinking about Cubase due to being integrated with those interfaces but really like the idea of logic's distributed audio processing (nodes).
What did you use to record your punk band?
I am comfortable with Logic but am far from learning all of the ins/outs. I was thinking about Cubase due to being integrated with those interfaces but really like the idea of logic's distributed audio processing (nodes).
What did you use to record your punk band?
Virtual Kevorkian
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I run Cubase pretty exclusively at this point, and our album was definitely 100% Cubase. I really only use PT for filetransfer stuff, and the only reason I own Logic (9) is for the Waveburner program that's bundled with it.
The Node stuff with Logic is cool, and Reaper has a similar functionality, but I believe it has limitations to stock plugins and not third party, which renders it just about useless for me.
If you're familiar with Logic, it's best to just stick with that. Logic 9 adds a lot of cool editing features and I'd be fine using it if I sat down and learned it, if I'm honest. Most all DAW's are that way Every single DAW ever has huge downsides to it, and it's just about finding which one sucks the least for your workflow/mindset.
I run Cubase pretty exclusively at this point, and our album was definitely 100% Cubase. I really only use PT for filetransfer stuff, and the only reason I own Logic (9) is for the Waveburner program that's bundled with it.
The Node stuff with Logic is cool, and Reaper has a similar functionality, but I believe it has limitations to stock plugins and not third party, which renders it just about useless for me.
If you're familiar with Logic, it's best to just stick with that. Logic 9 adds a lot of cool editing features and I'd be fine using it if I sat down and learned it, if I'm honest. Most all DAW's are that way Every single DAW ever has huge downsides to it, and it's just about finding which one sucks the least for your workflow/mindset.
ksmith63
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This is what makes it a difficult decision. All of the options will require significant learning, including Logic. I know enough to efficiently knock out demos from an artist standpoint but will have to dive into learning whichever I choose.
I'm pretty set on those interfaces so once I get one I'll have to try all of the options suggested here.
Thanks for the replies!
This is what makes it a difficult decision. All of the options will require significant learning, including Logic. I know enough to efficiently knock out demos from an artist standpoint but will have to dive into learning whichever I choose.
I'm pretty set on those interfaces so once I get one I'll have to try all of the options suggested here.
Thanks for the replies!
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TrippyVinylologist
Re: Recommend me a DAW!
Learning software is a pain. If you have aspirations of being a pro engineer you will need to know Pro Tools, it is still the most widely used by pros.
Learning software is a pain. If you have aspirations of being a pro engineer you will need to know Pro Tools, it is still the most widely used by pros.
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