recording with amp modelers (line6 etc)

Davey

Davey

Goliath of Tone
what do you guys use for recording straight into the computer? i treid it the old faction way (mic) and it freakin sucks. my amp doesnt have a line out so i could use it with the computers line in

how do you record? and which things should i look at so i could record and get kickass sounds on the computer (i'm looking your way nuntius)
if you mic your amp, what mic do you use and what sound cards do you have? and in the end, which recording programs.
i have cool edit pro 2 and i think hat should suffice for recording, sampling and mixing.

please share your experience
 
Re: recording with amp modelers (line6 etc)

There are few ways you can do it:

1) Amp modeller with Speaker Sim: this means getting a POD, Vamp, Dgstomp or similar. It is relatively cheap and works with virtually any sound card (Line in input). The modeller also raises the input voltage of the guitar to line level. This is simple and modellers offer a wide range of sounds and effects. The drawback is that the dynamics are not the same as a proper tube amp and that the modeller disguises the natural sound of the guitar

2) Miking your amp: you have to have a good amp and good effects (if you use them). A microphone generates a low voltage compared to a modeller and requires a microphone preamp before it goes to the soundcards. Some soundcards have mike pre.amps.

Load a mp3 backing in track1. Select a recording source for track2, press the R button and then click on record and start playing!:)

Marin
 
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hm.. my card has a mic input and i can amplify it for 20dB but i think it's broken lol

my amp is not that great and the effect delivers the tone, but is not the best either.. it's basically for home use/band practice, so a modeler is my best way out to get a sound similar to a tube amp and dont have to deal with all that crackling, hissing and ****ty sound that the mic delivers. and i'm used to the effects masking the true sound of the gutiar lol .. i havent heard a natural overdrive tone since i played ... wait .. that wasnt a natural overdrive tone lol
 
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thats why i started this threa.. so people post their experiences with the modelres and i know **** about them =P
 
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all my stuff is done guitar > guitarport > a stereo to quarter inch jack lead from the L/R outputs on the guitar port > back of sound card > cubase, but i dont bother EQ'ing because i'm generally happy with the tones anyway

A lot of people use POD's (diminished d 7th, you could pm him for a clip) or VAMP's but it depends what you want... something like those two you could also use with your amp, whereas a guitar port you can only use with your pc
 
Re: recording with amp modelers (line6 etc)

the best sounding and easiest way to record to the computer is using a Line6 product if you ask me. (there are other similar products like V-Amps etc, but Line6 comes across best if you ask me).

just plug em directly to your computers Line in/USB and you're fixed.
 
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hmm.. how much does a line 6 pod cost? i cant really pay a lot before i sell my little amp and maybe my smash box. is it more than 200$? usb also works? that might even be better than my sound cards line in ..

and diminished 7th where can i find one of your clips? =)
 
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Davey said:
hmm.. how much does a line 6 pod cost? i cant really pay a lot before i sell my little amp and maybe my smash box. is it more than 200$? usb also works? that might even be better than my sound cards line in ..

and diminished 7th where can i find one of your clips? =)
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davey-
in america im sure you could get the POD 2.3 for under 200$ if you look in the right places. $250 was its price before all the new stuff from line6 came out, it must have been dropped since.

if you're getting the POD 2 you wont have the capability to use USB, the POD XT's have that.

i just posted a clip in another thread here in the Tips and Clips forum. you're welcome to check it out. it was direct recorded with the POD so you should get a good impression of the sound quality you're gonna get (i recorded it running into a cheapo sound card, Creative's SB Live! i think).
 
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yea, checked your clip. that is pretty much the sound quality i'd like to have. very 'clean' signal
problem is, i'm not in the us so getting it for that wont be so easy .. read the thread about the XT and i'd like to have it.. even if it means selling my effects and old amp for it
 
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I am sitting next to two tube heads and a 4X12 cab but still use a POD XT quite a bit. It is very easy to record with a POD, it sounds about 80-85% as good a mic'd 4X12 (IMO) and I can record even if it is 1am and everyone is crashed. I also use it most of the time for practicing. I just use it with my PCs speakers. I rarely use headphones with the POD. I plug my POD straight into the computer. Sometimes I run from the POD into my G-Force then into the computer.

I don't know much about the Guitar Port but from what I have heard from some of the guys here it is a winner also. The GP is about $100 I think and the POD XT is $400. I should have looked into a Guitar Port myself. I just spent an extra $50 to get 18 more high-gain amps added to my POD. This includes models of the Uberschall, Cornford, Triple Rec, Diezel, Marshall JCM900 and 2000, ENGL, etc...

They don't sound identical but it sure is a lot of fun messing around with them all! A lot of my music was recorded with a POD XT. Check'em out and let me know if you have any questions. I had been using a custom setting using a tube screamer, Plexi and 4X12 cab with vintage 30s.
 
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hmm.. playing without disturbing others is a must in my position.. i got the computer in the living room and i cant take my amp, effects and all the shiznit from my room and put it up in the living room, then start shredding. not ehen everyone is at home and people want to watch TV.
hmm, that is a bit expencive for me.
what is the gutiar port and how does it work? i saw pics of them both and i get the pod, but what about the guitarport?

RGN, i cant get to your music page, says page cant be found
 
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I just checked and Soundclick is down for maintenance.

Try again later I guess.

"The Patriot" was done 100% with a POD XT and a Duncan C5.

"RR1" has a ton of different sounds. I think most (if not all) were done with the POD.
 
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guitar port is something you plug into your pc, then you get a screen up with the front of the amp so you can tweak the knobs etc... you also get mic, pedal, reverb, cab moelling etc...

check www.line6.com for stuff on it
 
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What then is the difference between Guitar Port and the POD? Is the main difference that you can also use the POD with a PA system live or as a preamp? How many amp models do you have with a GP? The GP seems like a really great deal. Don't get me wrong, i really like my XT but for pure value the GP seems like a hell of a deal to me.
 
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I have a Flextone II XL. It has two XLR outs that I go straight into my soundcard line-in jacks. I had to get two XLR to 1/8" adapters, but it works fine. When it's running in "studio" mode, the amp speakers make no sound, and it all comes from the computer speakers. I can be as loud or as soft as I want. I think you can use the headphone jack just the same. I think that's how you get POD to connect, but RGN would know better.
 
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Yes, the POD XT has standard guitar cord outputs L and R and a USB output also. I do just what you go, use a 1/8" adapter and plug right into my computer. I don't see any need to use the USB input into my computer. My computer doesn't really like that and it sounds great using the XLR outs.

I was very sceptical of this Line 6 stuff at first. I have a great sounding all tube VHT pitbull and a Marshall DSL50. I like both quite a bit. I had every intention of messing with the POD XT for a week or so then returning it to Guitar Center and getting my money back. That was over 6 months ago and there is no way I would get rid of my POD now. I think you need to move some air to get truly world class tone. The POD doesn't do that and I think it is about 80-85% as good as a mic'd 4X12 and a tube head. George Lynch uses the POD XT in the studio for quick fixes and an occasional punch. I think you will see more and more of this modeling stuff in the future.
 
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huh? .. i posted .. well

does anyone have a guitar -> guitarport -> computer recording for me to compare to a guitar -> podXt -> computer recording?
both work like that right? plug em fire em up and play em

i think either would be great as i'd mainly use it for computer recordning and shelling 300$ out just like that is not easy for me, even if i sell the pedals and the other amp i have. but then again.. i could use the pod with the other amp. decisions, decisions lol

nuntius, so all fo your work is directly recorded with the guitarport? how many effects does it have? are they freely downloadable?


RGN listening to your patriot and rr1 songs.. great sound



sum guy is selling this one for 250$ here.. if the pic is to be trusted, that it IS the exact one
http://www.music4you.co.il/WebgateShop/images/podfront.jpg

damn i hate living in the ass of the world.. not only you cant get anything here.. it STINKS!
 
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RGN said:
What then is the difference between Guitar Port and the POD? Is the main difference that you can also use the POD with a PA system live or as a preamp? How many amp models do you have with a GP? The GP seems like a really great deal. Don't get me wrong, i really like my XT but for pure value the GP seems like a hell of a deal to me.
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well, guitar port is waaay more interactive - you get the actual knobs on the amp.. the AC30 has bass Cut treble for example

there are 15 amp models, 15 cab models - interactive distortion pedals - big muff, fuzzface, Rat, Tubescreamer..

effects are chorus flanger phaser u vibe tremolo, rotary drum and horn thing... all can be set before or after your amp

you can enter the tempo or tap tempo it and then choose the effect or delay time and it will work it out for you

eg tempo = 120 bpm. you want a repeat every crotchet = 500ms - saves a lot of time!

theres mic modelling...

4 reverb types.

its worth the money to record with, all my stuff uses it and im really happy with the tones i get
 
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Put me down for a 'Big Muff' and a 'horn thing'.
 
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