Replace the 498T in an SG standard with...?
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Seymour Duncan Customer Support
Re: Replace the 498T in an SG standard with...?
Alright guys! This is more like it.
Thank you for all the recommendations, sincerely. This thread is gonna get us to the promised land on this guitar.
Stuff I'm considering now are:
59/C hybrid
CC or C8
Air Zone
AT-1
Rio BBQ
Anybody ever throw an A-8 into a Seth Lover?
Also, will be getting some 500k pots into the guitar (thanks Jeff).
Alright guys! This is more like it.
Thank you for all the recommendations, sincerely. This thread is gonna get us to the promised land on this guitar.
Stuff I'm considering now are:
59/C hybrid
CC or C8
Air Zone
AT-1
Rio BBQ
Anybody ever throw an A-8 into a Seth Lover?
Also, will be getting some 500k pots into the guitar (thanks Jeff).
Mr. B
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Re: Replace the 498T in an SG standard with...?
I've never liked the 490r neck pickup. It is too warm and spongy and round to balance well with ANY A5 magnet bridge pickup I have tried. I like the 498t with the cover off and a 59 in the neck. If I had to pick an A5 bridge to go with the 490r, I would try an UOA5 Custom. Gibson should pick a direction with the SG standard and commit. The 498t needs an A5 neck pickups with it. The 490r needs an A2 bridge pickup with it.
I've never liked the 490r neck pickup. It is too warm and spongy and round to balance well with ANY A5 magnet bridge pickup I have tried. I like the 498t with the cover off and a 59 in the neck. If I had to pick an A5 bridge to go with the 490r, I would try an UOA5 Custom. Gibson should pick a direction with the SG standard and commit. The 498t needs an A5 neck pickups with it. The 490r needs an A2 bridge pickup with it.
GilmourD
Burritotoneologist
Myaccount876
Amira-Maker
Re: Replace the 498T in an SG standard with...?
You could also try a '59/Custom hybrid with an A8, because everyone here has a hard-on for A8s. Also fun to experiment.
You could also try a '59/Custom hybrid with an A8, because everyone here has a hard-on for A8s. Also fun to experiment.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Replace the 498T in an SG standard with...?
+1. The 'bright bridge and dark neck' approach is difficult for many players to work with, and nudges some of them to use just one of the PU's. I find life to be much simpler when both PU's are either warm, or both are bright. I don't understand why the 498T/490R is in so many models. I don't think the guitar-playing public is clamouring for that pairing.
+1. The 'bright bridge and dark neck' approach is difficult for many players to work with, and nudges some of them to use just one of the PU's. I find life to be much simpler when both PU's are either warm, or both are bright. I don't understand why the 498T/490R is in so many models. I don't think the guitar-playing public is clamouring for that pairing.
sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
Re: Replace the 498T in an SG standard with...?
I happen to think the 498T sucks necrotic balls 100% of the time. I hate that pickup.
I just need something warmer and chewier with an output around 10k that would sound good in an SG.
I happen to think the 498T sucks necrotic balls 100% of the time. I hate that pickup.
I just need something warmer and chewier with an output around 10k that would sound good in an SG.
sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
LtKojak
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Re: Replace the 498T in an SG standard with...?
For being somebody writing an official column for Seymour's blog, this question seems a little bit... erm... let's say, odd?
The answer is: put an A2 mag into that 498T and set the height of the p'up a little bit to match the neck p'up's output.
Done.
HTH,
For being somebody writing an official column for Seymour's blog, this question seems a little bit... erm... let's say, odd?
The answer is: put an A2 mag into that 498T and set the height of the p'up a little bit to match the neck p'up's output.
Done.
HTH,
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Replace the 498T in an SG standard with...?
That was the first mag swap I tried with a 498T, which was in an SG. Even with 500K's, the high end was too rounded for me. My mags of choice for 498T's are UOA5 and A8, which fill in the middle and still leave a sharp high end.
That was the first mag swap I tried with a 498T, which was in an SG. Even with 500K's, the high end was too rounded for me. My mags of choice for 498T's are UOA5 and A8, which fill in the middle and still leave a sharp high end.
sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
Re: Replace the 498T in an SG standard with...?
Believe it or not, I haven't actually heard every single pickup model Seymour Duncan makes in person.
I like to gather opinions from people who've actually used various pickups. I know where to find specs but nothing replaces real world experience.
I had considered a mag swap, but the 498T is so far away from what would sound good in this guitar that it didn't seem worth trying in this case.
Believe it or not, I haven't actually heard every single pickup model Seymour Duncan makes in person.
I like to gather opinions from people who've actually used various pickups. I know where to find specs but nothing replaces real world experience.
I had considered a mag swap, but the 498T is so far away from what would sound good in this guitar that it didn't seem worth trying in this case.
LtKojak
New member
Re: Replace the 498T in an SG standard with...?
The problem is you're keeping the 490R, so the bridge p'up should be a match, both tone- and output-wise.
No Duncan p'up is really a tone-match to the 490R. The A2 in the 498T is.
HTH,
The problem is you're keeping the 490R, so the bridge p'up should be a match, both tone- and output-wise.
No Duncan p'up is really a tone-match to the 490R. The A2 in the 498T is.
HTH,
sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
Re: Replace the 498T in an SG standard with...?
Fair enough! It's not like a new neck pickup is out of the question. I was just trying to frame the recommendations in a way that I wouldn't get answers all over the map of everyone's favorite pickups. I was probably too restrictive with how I asked.
I appreciate all the recommendations from everyone. I think I have plenty to go on at this point.
Fair enough! It's not like a new neck pickup is out of the question. I was just trying to frame the recommendations in a way that I wouldn't get answers all over the map of everyone's favorite pickups. I was probably too restrictive with how I asked.
I appreciate all the recommendations from everyone. I think I have plenty to go on at this point.
LtKojak
New member
Re: Replace the 498T in an SG standard with...?
So, if you wanna the perfect SG p'up set, you have to hybridize, due to the positioning of the neck p'up.
My take is the following: an A4 '59n screw coil, JazzN slug coil hybrid for the neck, an A8 modded '59/Custom hybrid for the bridge and you'll be able to play any kind of music with the one guitar, also having a more than decent, usable "both-on" position if you wire it with a coil-split tone pot.
HTH,
So, if you wanna the perfect SG p'up set, you have to hybridize, due to the positioning of the neck p'up.
My take is the following: an A4 '59n screw coil, JazzN slug coil hybrid for the neck, an A8 modded '59/Custom hybrid for the bridge and you'll be able to play any kind of music with the one guitar, also having a more than decent, usable "both-on" position if you wire it with a coil-split tone pot.
HTH,
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Replace the 498T in an SG standard with...?
Without hybridizing and not counting PAF's, in SG's I'm partial to a C8/'59N and a Rio BBQ/Texas set. If you already have a 498T/49R in it and don't want to buy new PU's, then an A8 in the bridge and an A5 in the neck are a big improvement.
Without hybridizing and not counting PAF's, in SG's I'm partial to a C8/'59N and a Rio BBQ/Texas set. If you already have a 498T/49R in it and don't want to buy new PU's, then an A8 in the bridge and an A5 in the neck are a big improvement.
superpete
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Re: Replace the 498T in an SG standard with...?
i gotta agree with everyone who is saying BBQ. i had one in an sg and it sounded amazing. it fits everything you are looking for except maybe clarity...mine sounded big and fat with a lot of low mids, but definitely more thick than clear. i thought it sounded dead on to angus on the ac/dc live album from the early 90s.
i gotta agree with everyone who is saying BBQ. i had one in an sg and it sounded amazing. it fits everything you are looking for except maybe clarity...mine sounded big and fat with a lot of low mids, but definitely more thick than clear. i thought it sounded dead on to angus on the ac/dc live album from the early 90s.
MattPete
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Re: Replace the 498T in an SG standard with...?
490t's sound great in the bridge, whereas the 490r sounds muddy in the neck. Given that, there are a whole lot of SD bridge pickups that will not work with the 490r (C5, Custom, Seth Lover, 59) because they tend to be on the brighter side. I suggest getting a 490t bridge and putting an A5 in the 490r to brighten it up.
490t's sound great in the bridge, whereas the 490r sounds muddy in the neck. Given that, there are a whole lot of SD bridge pickups that will not work with the 490r (C5, Custom, Seth Lover, 59) because they tend to be on the brighter side. I suggest getting a 490t bridge and putting an A5 in the 490r to brighten it up.
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