Replacement for Pearly Gates?

['59]

I'm looking for a neck match for a Custom Custom in a Stratocaster that I have. The current Pearly Gates isn't doing it for me. It just has too much of an edge too it. I like my father's ES-335 which has a 57 Classic in the neck and flatwound strings. I was thinking about changing the PG for an A2 Pro, but that might be too bassy what do all of you think? It's wired for splits, so it needs to be 4 conductor.

I'm also fine with magnet swaps.

 

[jeremy]

Re: Replacement for Pearly Gates?

flatwounds take a lot of the edge off. you could try a rough cast a2 or a3 magnet in the pg if you have one

 

[blueman335]

Re: Replacement for Pearly Gates?

To my ears, A2P's have a bit more high-end than, and sound much better than, PGN's. Probably not the direction you want to go. If you want warmth, try a Phat Cat in the neck slot, maybe a bridge model.

 

[Aceman]

Re: Replacement for Pearly Gates?

Are you using the flat wounds now? If not try them.

Does the Strat have 250k pots? If not, try that.

Then, if those things don't get you there, I say go with the A2P.

 

['59]

Re: Replacement for Pearly Gates?

The bridge sounds perfect as it is now, I don't wanna mess with that. So you say the A2P is more musical and brighter? What about bass?

 

[Mincer]

Re: Replacement for Pearly Gates?

An A2Pro and CC is my favorite combo in a strat-style guitar. It is what I use in my #1. No, it doesn't sound bassy...anymore than the CC sounds bassy (it doesn't). Go for it- you can always swap the magnet to an A5 if you need a brighter sound, but I doubt you would.

 

[Ghwar]

Re: Replacement for Pearly Gates?

To me the A2Pro is actually far brighter than a Pearly gates, I'd say maybe try a 59'? I have an A2 Pro and Pearly Gates (granted, they're 2 different guitars, but still) and to me the pearly is definitely darker and fatter, rounder if you will. where the A2 Pro is more mid focused , brighter, sweeter.

for what it's worth my A2 Pro is also paired with a Custom Custom, and it's a fantastic combination, very musical in all positions both clean and dirty.

 

[ItsaBass]

Re: Replacement for Pearly Gates?

Does your neck pickup have a dedicated tone control, or is it's tone control tied to another pickup/s'?

What height is the pickup at, when you fret at the highest fret?

 

[Chistopher]

Re: Replacement for Pearly Gates?

Have you considered the Seth Lover at all? It appears to me that you might like one, they are definitely nice neck pickups.

Itsabass, I have had more than a few PGn in different guitars and I don't think the rudeness the OP is referring to can be dialed out with height adjustment or the use of a tone control, but what cap and pot values are you using?

 

[Jeff_H]

Re: Replacement for Pearly Gates?

A2P all the way. Best neck in a Strat for sure. Seth Lover 2nd and PG 3rd.

 

[canon_mutant]

Re: Replacement for Pearly Gates?

I love the Jazz SH-2 with the Custom Custom [Custom] <= Slightly hotter Godin version

They work great together in my LGXT.

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: Replacement for Pearly Gates?

If you felt confident enough, a swap to a Roughcast A2 magnet would probably do the trick.

Warm it up...thicken it up...lose some sizzle.

 

['59]

Re: Replacement for Pearly Gates?

How much of a difference would that make, if there is any way to describe the degree?

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: Replacement for Pearly Gates?

How much of a difference would that make, if there is any way to describe the degree?

Gosh...10 - 20%?

I sure noticed it enough that I just took a set of Antiquitys apart to find out why they weren’t as sizzley as two other sets I have.

Turned out they were made with Roughcast A2 magnets.

I liked them...just not quite as much as my other two sets, so I replaced the magnets with polished A2 and got the brighter, more aggressive tone I was after: the tone of my other two sets of Antiquitys.

I’m very familiar with your PGn, btw. I really like it.

I think a Roughcast A2, like the Custom Shop PG uses, would give you what you want.

 

[Chistopher]

Re: Replacement for Pearly Gates?

How much have you played with the pickup height and polepieces?

 

['59]

Re: Replacement for Pearly Gates?

Enough to know it can't be dialed out. @Lew, what do you think will get me closer to what I want, a roughcast magnet or A2P?

And what's so special about the Slash model?

 

['59]

Re: Replacement for Pearly Gates?

Anybody?

 

[jeremy]

Re: Replacement for Pearly Gates?

the slash model has more turns than the aph1 and might be a different wind as well. id guess the aph would be closer to what you want than just swapping in a rc magnet, but ive not tried a pgn with a rca2

 

[Ben1962]

Re: Replacement for Pearly Gates?

I have the Slash set. I tend towards higher outputs tho normally. With the dirt I use, I find the Slash neck very boomy. I think for me that set makes me want to play with way less distortion. Then they really do shine when played almost clean. Beautiful actually, but I am a old headbanger

 

[Chistopher]

Re: Replacement for Pearly Gates?

Hmm.... Maybe a A2 Sentient? Tonally the Sentient is somewhere between a 59 and a Jazz (which is tonally similar to an A5 Alnico II Pro). and the A2 might make it sound kinda sick. Anyone try this magnet in a Sentient? I think it might just fit what the OP is looking for. Don't be put off by the name, like I said, it's between a 59 and a Jazz tonally.