Rerproducing the Epiphone "TV Pelham Blue" with Reranch stuff

[St_Genesius]

A year or two ago Epi put out a range of instruments finished in what they called "TV Pelham Blue," with the "TV" portion of the name presumably referring to the thin color coat (under MILES of clear) which allowed the woodgrain to show through, unlike a standard Pelham finish, which is completely opaque.

The instruments were nothing special, but I really dug the finish and I keep toying with the idea of trying to paint a raw body in a similar way myself.

So what's the trick? Is it just like standard painting, but with fewer color coats? No grain filler? Rag-rubbed while wet to create a color-washed look?

 

[ImmortalSix]

Re: Rerproducing the Epiphone "TV Pelham Blue" with Reranch stuff

Can you post some pictures of the finish you're mentioning?

I don't believe I'm familiar with it.

 

[St_Genesius]

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Pics posted. There were also a couple of semi-hollows (a 339 and 355) but I don't like the grain of the maple nearly as much as mahogany, so if I do one, I'd be aiming for something much closer to what I posted.

Can you post some pictures of the finish you're mentioning?

I don't believe I'm familiar with it.

 

[ImmortalSix]

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Oh wow, that looks great.

Find ErikH - he did a finish like this on his SG build!

edit: found it: http://www.erikhansen.net/p/precision-guitar-kits-sg-jr.html

That open grain thing was discussed in more detail in his thread here: https://forum.seymourduncan.com/sho...mpt-at-a-set-neck-build-Precision-SG-Jr/page2

Bon chance!

 

[St_Genesius]

Re: Rerproducing the Epiphone "TV Pelham Blue" with Reranch stuff

Also, the typo in the title of this thread demands that I post this:

 

[Snake Aces]

Re: Rerproducing the Epiphone "TV Pelham Blue" with Reranch stuff

I dig that blue on that LP man

 

[jake_xms3_punk]

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I prefer that look to the solid version. to me it just looks like they left out the grain filler and primer stage.

 

[Snake Aces]

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I have a black korina LP I finished about 7 years ago now without adding any grain filler. I get crucified by a lot of people who see it telling me I need to bring it over so they can show me how to sand it down and re-finish it, some people are offended I didn't do a clear oil finish and other guys (including 2 luthiers) have told me I did a pretty good job for my first time finishing a body.

At the end of the day I do not ever want to sand it and re-finish it. I like how it looks even if it's not good enough for the purists. I dig the look of it and I like these Epiphones from the OP.

 

[rgand]

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I dig that blue on that LP man

Me, too. The white binding really sets it off.

 

[St_Genesius]

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It's a shame they didn't feel as good as they looked. Some combination of the type and thickness of the clear made them feel VERY plasticky. So, like most Epiphones.

Me, too. The white binding really sets it off.

 

[Snake Aces]

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It's a shame they didn't feel as good as they looked. Some combination of the type and thickness of the clear made them feel VERY plasticky. So, like most Epiphones.

Gonna have to agree with ya there.

 

[Wattage]

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Love that finish, I did a purple SG that was similar less the thick clear.

I just sanded down to raw wood, filled any cracks with superglue then sanded that back and went for it. My buddy did it for absolutely loves it.

 

[dominus]

Re: Rerproducing the Epiphone "TV Pelham Blue" with Reranch stuff

Blue tinted clear.

 

[treyhaislip]

Re: Rerproducing the Epiphone "TV Pelham Blue" with Reranch stuff

A year or two ago Epi put out a range of instruments finished in what they called "TV Pelham Blue," with the "TV" portion of the name presumably referring to the thin color coat (under MILES of clear) which allowed the woodgrain to show through, unlike a standard Pelham finish, which is completely opaque.

The instruments were nothing special, but I really dug the finish and I keep toying with the idea of trying to paint a raw body in a similar way myself.

So what's the trick? Is it just like standard painting, but with fewer color coats? No grain filler? Rag-rubbed while wet to create a color-washed look?

These are my favorite finishes I've seen on an Epi, still debating about getting one these (LP)

 

[Johnny the Kid]

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As an aside, I'm not sure why it's called TV Pelham Blue. TV yellow refers to the fact that white guitars were too bright for television lights and cameras and the yellow under the bright lights and on the black and white TV's actually looked white. Maybe the TV refers to it being the same type of paint used on the TV yellow guitars just different tinting?

 

[St_Genesius]

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It's possible, but I'd be surprised. For one thing, TV Yellow was a Nitrocellulose finish and these most definitely are not.

I think they just needed a name for the slightly different opacity and settled on the "TV" prefix because why not? At a stretch, you could argue that TV Yellow tended to show the grain (even though that wasn't its specific purpose) so now anything that shows grain is "TV?"

They're definitely sticking with the naming scheme for now, though. After the Pelham Blue run ended, they came out with a batch of "TV Silver."

. Maybe the TV refers to it being the same type of paint used on the TV yellow guitars just different tinting?

 

[St_Genesius]

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Greatest thing about that link is now I'm ALL OVER the Precision site. Not cheap, but much closer to getting me exactly what I want.

Oh wow, that looks great.

Find ErikH - he did a finish like this on his SG build!

edit: found it: http://www.erikhansen.net/p/precision-guitar-kits-sg-jr.html

That open grain thing was discussed in more detail in his thread here: https://forum.seymourduncan.com/sho...mpt-at-a-set-neck-build-Precision-SG-Jr/page2

Bon chance!

 

[dominus]

Re: Rerproducing the Epiphone "TV Pelham Blue" with Reranch stuff

As an aside, I'm not sure why it's called TV Pelham Blue. TV yellow refers to the fact that white guitars were too bright for television lights and cameras and the yellow under the bright lights and on the black and white TV's actually looked white. Maybe the TV refers to it being the same type of paint used on the TV yellow guitars just different tinting?

TV Yellow these days is a dark (but still transparent/translucent) yellow. Perhaps someone coming up with this color thought that the TV stood for transparent v-something.

 

[St_Genesius]

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Maybe they're letting us know which models are specifically for transvestites.

TV Yellow these days is a dark (but still transparent/translucent) yellow. Perhaps someone coming up with this color thought that the TV stood for transparent v-something.

 

[Johnny the Kid]

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TV Yellow these days is a dark (but still transparent/translucent) yellow. Perhaps someone coming up with this color thought that the TV stood for transparent v-something.

Maybe the TV refers to the modern version than the vintage ones. The vintage ones were solid mustard yellow from what I've heard.