Reverb: pedals vs. built into the amp

Re: Reverb: pedals vs. built into the amp

I dont need my hall of fame reverb any more since i have my fender blues deluxe now, which sounds great:)
 
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You get a different tone when you plug your guitar into a stand alone reverb unit and then plug that into your amp, then you do when the reverb is built into your Fender amp. Seems like you lose some of the guitar signal when you plug it into the box and I always felt that my guitar tone had been weakened in some way.

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I have played through my BF Pro Reverb for many years,love the reverb,and like Lew,I keep it at around 2.5 or so...I Love the spring reverb and especially for clean stuff...I also like digital type reverbs for ambience and to kind of broaden the overall tone coming out..I also use the Verbzilla and it is a cool "effect".I actually seem to like the TC Hall Of Fame even more though!

I also like using the reverb that's built into my Vox Blue series head...It's a different effect,but a cool effect none the less..Whatever works!
 
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Lewguitar said:
The Dr. Z Maz uses a cathode follower circuit, like a '59 Fender Bassman, or vintage 60's Marshall or Vox.

That circuit and tone stack model was used in the tweed Fender Bassman, then copied in Britain and it became the Marshall JTM45 and 50 watt and 100 watt circuit and the Vox AC30 circuit in the 60's.

I know Dr. Z's early amps all used a cathode follower like a tweed Bassman and were modeled on that Bassman, Marshall, Vox tone stack and cathode follower circuit which is difficult to add reverb to, altho Dr. Z did find a way.

The cathode follower combined with the Bassman style tone stack is an absolute must if you're going to build an amp that sounds like a '59 Bassman, Marshall or a Vox. But none of those amps had reverb originally and the cathode follower circuit doesn't provide an easy place to insert reverb in the circuit.

The blackface Fender circuit works great with reverb and sounds great with reverb, and even when the reverb is turned to zero it adds gain to the amp, rather than take away anything.
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All true!

The BF/SF Fenders are in my mind and to my ears the exception...to me a Blackface Deluxe Reverb sounds better, stronger and fuller than a Blackface Deluxe but I only see that with 60's/70's Fenders.
 
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Now...I do dig the outboard reverb units from Fender and I even like a few other outboard tanks...

They are not anything like the built in reverb but still very cool and I like it, in fact I like it a little better sometimes!
 
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the guy who invented fire said:
Now...I do dig the outboard reverb units from Fender and I even like a few other outboard tanks...

They are not anything like the built in reverb but still very cool and I like it, in fact I like it a little better sometimes!
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For super splashy surf music the outboard reverb does get a pretty wet sound going.
 
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the guy who invented fire said:
The BF/SF Fenders are in my mind and to my ears the exception...to me a Blackface Deluxe Reverb sounds better, stronger and fuller than a Blackface Deluxe but I only see that with 60's/70's Fenders.
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I've spent most of my life playing through blackface Fenders with reverb. My tone is based on that style amp more so than any other. So that's the style Bruce and I will be building. Started out with a Twin Reverb after high school, finally decided it was just to loud and heavy and then went to a Pro Reverb with Celestions and that was my main amp until I started using even smaller amps like the pair of Deluxe Reverbs I use now or a DR and my Princeton Reverb.

Been having a ball with King of Tone the last couple of days, BTW. I keep coming back to the factory setting of OD and CLEAN. But I love the DISTORTION and CLEAN mode and also the OD and OD mode. With the OD and OD mode I can make the bridge pickup on my Strat (Antiquity Texas Hot Custom) start sounding like a humbucker! I can get that snarl and slightly nasal honk.

Loving the KoT through my Princeton Reverb and Deluxe Reverb.
 
Re: Reverb: pedals vs. built into the amp

Lewguitar said:
I've spent most of my life playing through blackface Fenders with reverb. My tone is based on that style amp more so than any other. So that's the style Bruce and I will be building. Started out with a Twin Reverb after high school, finally decided it was just to loud and heavy and then went to a Pro Reverb with Celestions and that was my main amp until I started using even smaller amps like the pair of Deluxe Reverbs I use now or a DR and my Princeton Reverb.

Been having a ball with King of Tone the last couple of days, BTW. I keep coming back to the factory setting of OD and CLEAN. But I love the DISTORTION and CLEAN mode and also the OD and OD mode. With the OD and OD mode I can make the bridge pickup on my Strat (Antiquity Texas Hot Custom) start sounding like a humbucker! I can get that snarl and slightly nasal honk.

Loving the KoT through my Princeton Reverb and Deluxe Reverb.
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So glad you're digging it...you can get lost tweaking the KoT, lots and lots of options!
 
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