Rid is a freakin genius

[Dan-ola]

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Cool idea Jeff - let me know how the V30 works; the other amp I was looking at would be the V15, kinda thought that might be a better clean to work with the pedal as well...

I think a rig like this might work - every modeling amp I play I end up on the 70s Marshall or Plexi models! I can dig the Rectifier settings on the same amps but just something more pleasing to me about the Marshalls - less gain but nicer crunch I suppose... But I have had it with modeling amps - just want a simple rig that can crunch and sing at low and high volume, without a huge floorboard or a chain of stompboxes. Damn old age :gurmpy:

Dano

 

[JeffB]

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Cool idea Jeff - let me know how the V30 works; the other amp I was looking at would be the V15, kinda thought that might be a better clean to work with the pedal as well...

I think a rig like this might work - every modeling amp I play I end up on the 70s Marshall or Plexi models! I can dig the Rectifier settings on the same amps but just something more pleasing to me about the Marshalls - less gain but nicer crunch I suppose... But I have had it with modeling amps - just want a simple rig that can crunch and sing at low and high volume, without a huge floorboard or a chain of stompboxes. Damn old age :gurmpy:

Dano

Will let ya know..But I certainly wouldn't overlook the POD XTL (which is not cumbersome) into the Atomic.

I only use 3 of the amp models as well, and the 800 gets 99% of the playing time.The Atomic (ONCE YOU TWEAK AND GET IT RIGHT) really does make for a nice sounding setup with a modeler. I hated it at first...but once I got the parametric going, played with the speaker cab sims, etc...it turned a dud into a STUD

 

[75lespaul]

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I got the JCM 800 sound out of mine. I mean, damn--through my little 1X12 10 watt Univox U45-B I thought I was cranking my old JCM I sold back in the 80s. This pedal is most definitely the best Marshall clone pedal I've ever heard bar none. I got the plexi sound like you said right away. I always thought my Univox sounded like a mini plexi anyway, but I played "For Those About To Rock" without the plexitone and then with it--wow did it nail that tone! It reacts just like a tube amp as well. Hit the strings lightly, get a nice subdued overdriven laying in the weeds sound. Hit it hard and it rips your face off.

The knobs are VERY sensitive as well. Just turning one slightly can drastically change the sound so you really can get a ton of tones from the Plexitone and you can quickly get something you DON'T want if you just randomly crank knobs and play. That's what I did at first and I was like "this pedal is crap". Then I actually came to my senses, gave it another shot and took time to learn the pedal and logically dial in my tones. Moral of this paragraph is don't plug and play. Treat it like an instrament, not an ipod.

I've got a 59 Bassman custom built amp with Mercury transformers and SoZo caps in it with a 2X12 cab instead of the 4X10. I have not had a chance to use the Plexitone with that amp yet but I "shiver with antica........pation". Gotta use it with my Valvetronix too.

Rid, all I can say is thank you for giving me my plexi back bro.

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

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Hmm one of my friends is using a plexi into a clean marshall setting on a pod..wonder how it will sound in to yours??

 

[ErikH]

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Jeff, if you can find one, try the V30 with the Tone Tubby speaker. You won't regret it. Of course, you may end up taking it home with you.

 

[JeffB]

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Hmm one of my friends is using a plexi into a clean marshall setting on a pod..wonder how it will sound in to yours??

I'll give it a try Rid....all I know is the POD Plexi model sounds like @$$

The 800 is spot on, as is the JTM..but the plexi is just awful

75,
Thanks..I def will play with it. Could very well be my amp. I did notice it was quite sensitive to knob changes (especially the gain controls).

BTW>.do you remember how you had yours set for the 800 style tones?

 

[JeffB]

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Jeff, if you can find one, try the V30 with the Tone Tubby speaker. You won't regret it. Of course, you may end up taking it home with you.

Not until I sell something else first, LOL. I've got no more room!

CrapLab...errr ToneLab :laugh2: goes back next week now that I got an RA.

Birdy and Paula up on the bay....possibly the Rivera too...we'll see.

 

[75lespaul]

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I'll give it a try Rid....all I know is the POD Plexi model sounds like @$$

The 800 is spot on, as is the JTM..but the plexi is just awful

75,
Thanks..I def will play with it. Could very well be my amp. I did notice it was quite sensitive to knob changes (especially the gain controls).

BTW>.do you remember how you had yours set for the 800 style tones?

Off hand, no. I've got everything broken down at the moment for some house overhauling, but this weekend I should have everything up and running again. I can tell you I used the same Les Paul I used to use with the 800 just with ants now instead of Dimarzio super distortions. The sound was right on, which I couldn't believe because of the pickup change. Maybe even a bit warmer than the real deal. I'll post if I get a chance. I've always been a "by ear" guy because early on I noticed all my "from memory" settings sounded different in every club/rehearsal room I played in so I started from scratch every time I set up so. That a good practice for me because now I have no memory and I don't have to change my ways, LOL.

 

[JeffB]

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That a good practice for me because now I have no memory and I don't have to change my ways, LOL.

I'm sorry, what were we talking about?




Me three..know what ya mean

 

[75lespaul]

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I'm sorry, what were we talking about?




Me three..know what ya mean

HAHAHA--You got me!

 

[75lespaul]

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75,
Thanks..I def will play with it. Could very well be my amp. I did notice it was quite sensitive to knob changes (especially the gain controls).

BTW>.do you remember how you had yours set for the 800 style tones?

Okay, I pulled out the 59 clone today and here were the setting for the JCM800 sound I used. Boost 0, Level whatever you need, Tone 1:00, High Gain was 3:00, Crunch 0.

Click on Drive and Select switches.

On the amp I had bass at 4, Treble at 6, Mid at 10, Presence 10. Sounded great. Really had to spend a few moment dialing in that tone as the pedal tends to cause this amp to get flabby. Once dialed in, tight as can be. Was getting the typical Plexi tones with the same amp settings and using the crunch at about 1:00 while turning off the high gain and clicking off select. Seriously cool pedal.

 

[JeffB]

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Okay, I pulled out the 59 clone today and here were the setting for the JCM800 sound I used. Boost 0, Level whatever you need, Tone 1:00, High Gain was 3:00, Crunch 0.

Click on Drive and Select switches.

On the amp I had bass at 4, Treble at 6, Mid at 10, Presence 10. Sounded great. Really had to spend a few moment dialing in that tone as the pedal tends to cause this amp to get flabby. Once dialed in, tight as can be. Was getting the typical Plexi tones with the same amp settings and using the crunch at about 1:00 while turning off the high gain and clicking off select. Seriously cool pedal.

Thank You. I'll put it through the paces this weekend!

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

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Now is there any progress??

 

[Gearjoneser]

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I second the fact that RID is a genious as both an FX technician/innovator, but also as a creative guitar player with skills. Glad to have him back on the forum!

 

[Stratcat]

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Where can I get one of these Pedals?!?!:dance:

 

[JeffB]

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I wasn't able to get to the music store and try any different amps with it. But I did play with it a bit friday night with more volume through my Rivera. You are right, Rid... the louder the better (isn't that the way with any Marshall )

I think the thing holding me back from more "agressive" sounds with the Plexi/Rivera combo are the 59s in my Hamer. They are just too "twangy" through this combination (amp and ped). However, I def got it dialed in to more of a metal-face/early JMP like tone. Not as authentic as it will do a plexi, but damn good, nonetheless.

I prefer the crunch channel over the high gain channel tonally..it's less compressed..more open...and the amount of gain available is quite similar.

regardless..it's a GREAT pedal. I can't recommend it highly enough. I made a couple clips, but i have such a poor recording setup, I felt it wasn't doing the pedal justice. I'll see if I can get something better recorded in the next few days.

I got mine through Musician's Friend, Stratcat.

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

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Hehe great...well it is not the pedal that is compressed...it is your amp getting a hard time, that od thing has headroom in spades.
And thanks a bunch for the kind words all of you, I am just trying to make it work the best way possible with what I got

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

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Maybe because it could work if he used JCM800

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

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Well as I have said earlier it just ads the bite and the lowend close to a Marshall, the amp is the foundation of the sound, just treat the drive as it was the amps own dirt

 

[JeffB]

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If this is the case, may I ask as to why you picked up a Plexi-Tone instead of going for one of the "JCM 800 in a box" type pedals out there?

Valid question.

I had been very impressed with the authenticity of tone I'd heard in Steve's clips. I've not heard a pedal that really does sound as close to a real marshall as this one. However, I can't say I know of any pedals that try to exactly emulate an 800, either.

I'd also hoped with it's high gain channel, it would get me in the ballpark of the JMP/800 amps (honestly the crunch channel will). I think it's capable as I said, just that my pups (or the amp itself) are holding me back from getting the tones in my head I need to hear. My Pod XTL/Atomic does give me the exact tones I want...however, I have so much more flexibility with a built in parametric EQ, and the ability to work with different speaker models (the 75W celestions are key for the POD XTL). But it also doesn't have the dynamics and "real amp" feel of the plexi-tone.

Regardless, financially, and space-wise I have to make a decision one way or the other soon. I can't keep both amp setups as much as I would like to. I've got a tough choice to make.