Riff-Off 2.1: Frizzle Fry vs. Stockholm Syndrome

[tone4days]

Re: Riff-Off 2.1: Frizzle Fry vs. Stockholm Syndrome

stockholm has given us the germ of a very cool tune - for me, it was two riff fragments stitched together to form a whole greater than the sum of its parts ... with the right development, i bet i'dve voted for either ... as it is, i couldnt vote for it

frizzle gave us a riff and he got my vote - i really like the elegance of the timing displacement he used at the end of the 2nd half ... playing with the same notes but moving them to create rhythmic interest - very strong entry indeed

 

[super rad stuff]

Re: Riff-Off 2.1: Frizzle Fry vs. Stockholm Syndrome

frizzle fry's riff is very atypicle and very rock 'n' roll- cool but not as creative. i love the fuzzed out tone though

stockholm's riff on the other hand, really sets a mood. the sincopated parts are soo fat and in your face each time they're there, then really run off when it goes into the chords. this guy's gonna go far i think.

 

[pzaxtl]

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Voted.

 

[Gamera]

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both seem sort of obvious to me, but had to go with stockholm simply because it sounded cooler, which is what it's mostly about to me.

I have to admit I'm getting bored of blues rock riffs - even though two of the ones I did were that. They start to feel too easy or that they've been done. Too much like the thing you play on automatic pilot when you pick up your guitar.

This sounds like you're contradicting yourself and reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask, and still may in another thread. I see what you're saying from a technical, analytical standpoint but who cares? I mean are people intentionally trying to steer clear of "typical" blues-rock based song structures these days just for the sake of being different? I can understand the desire to be different and do something unique but, especially in the context of a single riff, seems silly to overanalyze this way.

I mean it works for a reason. It can be argued that anything is a derivative of blues-rock anyway plus it has the added bonus of containing that simple, visceral, mojo that almost anyone can latch onto for whatever reason.

 

[GoDrex]

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I don't see where the the contradiction is. I'm even bored by my own riffs at times. I try very hard to avoid riffs that sound like they've been done to death. When you do this you have to put a little more thought and effort into it. A lot of guitar players (myself included) can flop their fingers around in a blues scale and make it sound cool, but it often sounds a lot like something I've heard before. There's no rule that says you can't do this, but I just feel like it often comes across as too generic to me and I would like a surprise once in a while.

This also doesn't mean that you don't have to like it. If you dig it, that's cool.


Here's a quote that I like: “Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.” -Frank Zappa

I like a little deviation from time to time. Yes let's be different just for the sake of being different!

 

[ImmortalSix]

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Closer for me than ANYTHING in Riff Off 1

 

[Gamera]

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I don't see where the the contradiction is.

Like I mentioned before, perhaps this should be a separate thread but it reminded me of a question I've been meaning to ask regarding how relevant blues still is in songwriting. Your contradiction, IMO, was about simply sounding cooler but making an effort to stray from the simple cool formula. I get trying to be different. Nobody wants to hear a 10% variation of Smoke On The Water or whatever.

Really the question came up in my head after rediscovering some 70's blues rock jam bands. Uriah Heep, Savoy Brown, Keef Hartley Band, Thin Lizzy, etc. It occurred to me that almost none of what I was hearing was immediately recognizable as the typical blues patterns. Only after really studying it and breaking it down was I able to connect it, and I know what to look for. I wonder if the average listener knows and subconsciously thinks of it as cliche therefore looks for something different.

 

[super rad stuff]

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Like I mentioned before, perhaps this should be a separate thread but it reminded me of a question I've been meaning to ask regarding how relevant blues still is in songwriting. Your contradiction, IMO, was about simply sounding cooler but making an effort to stray from the simple cool formula. I get trying to be different. Nobody wants to hear a 10% variation of Smoke On The Water or whatever.

Really the question came up in my head after rediscovering some 70's blues rock jam bands. Uriah Heep, Savoy Brown, Keef Hartley Band, Thin Lizzy, etc. It occurred to me that almost none of what I was hearing was immediately recognizable as the typical blues patterns. Only after really studying it and breaking it down was I able to connect it, and I know what to look for. I wonder if the average listener knows and subconsciously thinks of it as cliche therefore looks for something different.

actually, i'd like a separate thread on the subject on coming up with new material. i was gonna type up a big post, but didn't want to de-rail this battle

 

[daemon barbeque]

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Frizzle is the shizzle I like th thick tone, nice chops and huge balls. Yes!

 

[LesStrat]

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Fo' sho'!

 

[sosomething]

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Frizzle Fry
Oh, now I like this one. Deep, fuzzy and throaty - middle position? Very nice. Sounds like something Orange Goblin might bust out. In a band setting, this would roll in a big way. A good simple riff with a lot to say. Quality.

Stockholm
I like the chunky, spongey tone used here. It's funny, because the feel here is similar to Frizzle's clip. They actually sound like something the same band might play in different songs. While this riff displays more chops and a really classy use of space, I feel like the other riff says as much with less, and my vote reflects that.

 

[GoDrex]

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whoa - 23-23 with time running out

 

[B2D]

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Wow. This is gonna be close!