Roland Cube 30x and 60 - I'm curious about them!

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The thread about the best 30 watt solid state amp peaked my interest.

But the video Jolly posted http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKHthNMoMzA REALLY peaked my interest!

So who can tell me all about the Rolands and how they differ? The Roland Cube 30x has 30 watts and a 10" speaker and the Cube 60 has 60 watts and a 12" speaker. How else are they different? And most importantly: just how good are they?

And how do they compare to comparable Tech 21 models? Those sound pretty good too. Check out this kid playing through a Tech 21: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsGWXDmtP8E
 
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They sound great! Even better (if you don't need the high gain sounds) is the Roland Blues Cube series!!!!!
 
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So who can tell me all about the Rolands and how they differ?

I can tell you in general, the higher wattage Cubes tend to have more models / features.

Cubes sound great, but I liked the Vox VT series better because the smallest amps come with pretty much the same models / features of the larger ones, and you get a larger variety of tones with the Vox. Roland has a good tone, but they seemed behind the times technically compared to what is out there.
 
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I have a famous friend (remain nameless) here in Tampa that uses the older non effect Cube 60's at gigs.
 
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I'm a HUGE cube fan. The main reason was that the sounds were just 'there.' It really took no time to pick a close enough model, tweek the gain, work a ouch of EQ and maybe throw in a little chorus or delay and get the sound I needed. I tried a bunch of model amps. The Cube was just the simplest, most straight ahead good sounding one o me.

Key differences on the 60
- This is a biggy: Presence control. wish I had that on my 30 for the Marshall setting!
- You also get a bright switch on the clean (JC120) channel.

The 30x
- Has a "power squeezer" for extra "sustain and gain" at low volume. (Meh)

Both amps now have tuners and the Dyna-amp model.

There is also a larger 80x version.
 
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I'm a HUGE cube fan. The main reason was that the sounds were just 'there.' It really took no time to pick a close enough model, tweek the gain, work a ouch of EQ and maybe throw in a little chorus or delay and get the sound I needed. I tried a bunch of model amps. The Cube was just the simplest, most straight ahead good sounding one o me.

Key differences on the 60
- This is a biggy: Presence control. wish I had that on my 30 for the Marshall setting!
- You also get a bright switch on the clean (JC120) channel.

The 30x
- Has a "power squeezer" for extra "sustain and gain" at low volume. (Meh)

Both amps now have tuners and the Dyna-amp model.

There is also a larger 80x version.

So Ace: which model you own? 30, 30x or 60? And do they really sound as good as the red one that's in the Youtube video Jolly posted? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKHthNMoMzA And which one is that? Thanks!

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I have a 30. I have played them all at some point. As nice a s a built in tuner would be, I just don't need any more models and I'm indifferent about the Dyna Amp model, cool as it is. 60 watts is just way more mojo than I need everyday. That presence control would be killer for the marshall mod though!

And as for clean - while they aren't REALLY JC's, they are as close as you will get without all of the power/headroom of the 90/120 watt amps and all that comes with them. I say it is a JC - just a small one. I've been getting some righteous tones out of the Twin model too lately.

She is using the Micro-cube! That is like 2 watts with a 5 inch speaker and can run on batteries! It appears they just miked it from the board. Those things are amazing for the size. But all of them will make that sound. Just goes to show you - size isn't everything.
 
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I have a 30. I have played them all at some point. As nice a s a built in tuner would be, I just don't need any more models and I'm indifferent about the Dyna Amp model, cool as it is. 60 watts is just way more mojo than I need everyday. That presence control would be killer for the marshall mod though!

And as for clean - while they aren't REALLY JC's, they are as close as you will get without all of the power/headroom of the 90/120 watt amps and all that comes with them. I say it is a JC - just a small one. I've been getting some righteous tones out of the Twin model too lately.

She is using the Micro-cube! That is like 2 watts with a 5 inch speaker and can run on batteries! It appears they just miked it from the board. Those things are amazing for the size. But all of them will make that sound. Just goes to show you - size isn't everything.

I want one. I don't own a single modern amp. Seems like it would be a lot of fun. And they're so inexpensive. I saw a near new Roland Cube 30x go for about $200 on Ebay the other day.

Lew
 
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I got a micro-cube for practicing when travelling. I was very surprized. I really like it and I'm a toob snob. I was going to get the Vox but the Cube was better when I test drove them.
 
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I got a micro-cube for practicing when travelling. I was very surprized. I really like it and I'm a toob snob. I was going to get the Vox but the Cube was better when I test drove them.

I'm going to head over to Robb's Music in Boulder today and try out some little modeling amps. Haven't played through any since test driving a bunch with Curly at NAMM a few years ago. At that time I liked the Line 6 stuff best. Now, I'm most interested in the Tech 21 and Roland Cube.
 
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I want one. I don't own a single modern amp. Seems like it would be a lot of fun. And they're so inexpensive. I saw a near new Roland Cube 30x go for about $200 on Ebay the other day.

Lew

There was a Cube 20x at GC for $80. I should have grabbed it. It didn't last long.
 
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On my micro cube I havn't been really impressed with the BF model, but the Vox model is pretty good in my opinion.
 
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Get yourself a microcube Lew. It would be awesome for sitting out on your back porch and jamming.
 
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So I went down to Robb's Music and tried out a Roland Cube 60 today. I spent about 1/2 an hour with it. Should have brought my own guitar. The Strat I played was a '62 Relic and fine but I didn't like any of the humbucker guitars they had readily available. Compared to my 335 a poorly set up Epiphoney Dot didn't cut it.

It was hard for me to imagine this really being a 60 watt amp. I didn't have my 22 watt Deluxe Reverb with me to compare, but I'm almost certain my Deluxe Reverb is louder.

I didn't get the feeling the Cube 60 would be quite loud enough for me to gig with a bass, drums, and another guitar or piano.

Maybe at church. But not at a bar.

But I did like the amp. I thought for $345 it was a lot of amp for the money.

Of all the amp simulations, I liked the clean channel which is a Roland Jazz tone. It was simply the most beautiful sounding setting on the amp, and a really great clean tone. The presence control adds some nice sparkle - it's a nice control to have.

I also liked the preselected tones of all of the effects. The reverb, delay, chorus, phase shifter, and vibrato all sounded very good. I especially liked the vibrato which can be set to a much slower throb than my blackface Fender amps allow.

Moving to the amp simulations: I didn't think the Vox, Blackface Fender, Tweed Fender, or Marshall actually sounded very much like the real amps that I have owned, but the tones were still very good and very useable and pretty cool.

For overdriven tones, I liked the classic and metal settings best and Aceman is right about the presence control. It's a HUGE PLUS in getting the right faux-Marshall tone and it comes on the Cube 60 but not on the Cube 30.

I wasn't crazy about the Vox tones. To grainy or something. Maybe if I spent more time with it. Just didn't sound anything like the Beatles or Brian May and those are the two tones I want from a Vox amp.

I liked the cleaner Blackface and Tweed tones. I didn't like the overdriven tones here as much as the faux-Marshall overdriven tones but they were still good. The Blackface setting seemed to be cleaner and clearer than the Tweed.

Doing a riff like Little Wing, I preferred the tone of the clean channel of the amp over the clean setting of the blackface emulation.

I am not a metal player. I'm a blues, r&b and rock player. But I get the feeling most metal players would want to use an overdrive or distortion pedal to get the super saturated tones I hear in that kind of music.

I didn't try one, but I suspect a nice TS-9 or TS-808 would sound good with the way this amp is voiced.

I was hoping I'd hear the more saturated tones from this amp than I heard - but I still really liked what I heard for the most part.

I dunno that I'll get one anytime soon - but like the way Roland voices their products and I liked this amp a lot.

I'm going to look at a Micro Cube next.
 
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Try the Vox VT amps, Lew. IMO, they blow away the Roland Cubes. They sound and feel more real to me. And the 50 watter is LOUD! Loud enough to gig with.
 
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Try the Vox VT amps, Lew. IMO, they blow away the Roland Cubes. They sound and feel more real to me. And the 50 watter is LOUD! Loud enough to gig with.

I'm not really looking for an amp Erik - haven't been working enough lately and I'm more into selling them at the moment. I'm getting my blackface Vibrolux Reverb ready to put on Ebay.

I just liked the way Orianthi sounded wailing through that Micro Cube and thought it might be fun to check out the Roland Cube amps since I've always liked Roland products and have wanted that Roland Jazz Chorus sound for years.

It might be fun to also have all those overdriven sounds and effects available in one little easy to use amp someday.

Maybe next year when I get a little more on my feet again I'll take another, more serious, look.
 
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You know Lew - one of the big mistakes people make when dealing with modellers is tbat they want it to sound EXACTLY like the amp it is emulating. which is usually a huge mistake...because:
a) No 15 watt amp will ever sound like a roaring 100watt into two 4x12 cabs!
b) They miss some very excellent sounds!!!!

Being a metal player...The 5150 sound is my "Hotrod" Marshall tone on my cube. The Marshall sound while cool - will fail at this.

The Marshall model - needs some volume behind it to get a nice crunch. and then it is very nice!!! Angus city!!!!

To do early Zep, I actually use the Bassman model. Not what Page used...but with my LP's it absolutely gives me the sound I need for that!

I never use the Vox either...But it is a very cool sound. But no, it's not instant Brian May.

As for the fx, they are pretty darn serviceable and sensible settings.

If you want some really great Vox, and more Marshalls, with the ability to tweek fx - get the Vox modeller. I agree they sound fantastic. But I just don't need 4 Vox models and 3 Marshalls, and fx tweeking just makes me spend less time playing and more time twiddling. And there is a tube.

The JC sound on all of the Rolands is awesome though, IMO. That was a big reason i got the Cube. I felt I could always put boxes in front for whatever I couldn't get from the amp itself.
 
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I just liked the way Orianthi sounded wailing through that Micro Cube and thought it might be fun to check out the Roland Cube amps since I've always liked Roland products and have wanted that Roland Jazz Chorus sound for years.

Maybe next year when I get a little more on my feet again I'll take another, more serious, look.


The clean on the Micro is pretty critically acclaimed for copping the JC vibe. Don't know if it's because of the size or its really that good...
 
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I'm not really looking for an amp Erik - haven't been working enough lately and I'm more into selling them at the moment. I'm getting my blackface Vibrolux Reverb ready to put on Ebay.

I just liked the way Orianthi sounded wailing through that Micro Cube and thought it might be fun to check out the Roland Cube amps since I've always liked Roland products and have wanted that Roland Jazz Chorus sound for years.

It might be fun to also have all those overdriven sounds and effects available in one little easy to use amp someday.

Maybe next year when I get a little more on my feet again I'll take another, more serious, look.

That sucks that you have to sell more stuff but your health is more important. And that stuff is just that, stuff. ;)

If you ever want to compare, definitely check out the Vox VT series, even for the heck of it. Aceman is right, the effects are more tweakable. I hardly ever tweak them very much other than the effect level and I use the reverb mostly anyway.

It comes as no surprise to me that the JC model in the Cubes sounds so good. It is Roland making a model of their own amp. They better get it to sound as close to the real thing as they can. Same with the Vox modelers. They did an awesome job with the AC15 and AC30TB models. I use the AC30TB model for my light to medium crunch tones and even clean tones by rolling the guitar volume back or using the HBE Detox EQ to choke back the guitar signal and re-EQ it a bit.
 
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