Roll up! Roll up! Get your heavy!

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cool stuff, reminds me a bit of The Crown (kickass swedish death/thrash). Pretty decent recording too, I'm guessing it was live off the floor?

could do with a bit of tightening up though ;)
 
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cool stuff, reminds me a bit of The Crown (kickass swedish death/thrash). Pretty decent recording too, I'm guessing it was live off the floor?

could do with a bit of tightening up though ;)
I effing LOVE The Crown! Don't be playa hating *****, my riffs are T as Ight.
 
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Tightness isn't about your playing dude, it's about the whole band playing together. It's not like you guys are totally off, just in need of a little finessing, that's all...to take it from damn good to F'n unbelievable.
 
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If you're talking about 1:03, that is an intentional truncated Rush influenced part. I can't see how anything else is anything but nut tight.
 
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actually i wasn't, but whatevs, you probably won't listen to me anyway
 
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actually i wasn't, but whatevs, you probably won't listen to me anyway
Hey, it's ok, it's not like that. I'm just not sure what you mean. The only thing I can think of is quantizing the drums and such and that just isn't my style.
 
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ok well 0:20-0:27 definitely needs to be tightened up as does the little bit at 0:59, and while I can tell what you guys were going for at 1:03, the execution, particularly on the drums, could be better.

they're all minor things though...I'm just nitpicking, because when I hear something as tight and well recorded as this, it's that last 1-2% that makes all the difference.
 
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cool stuff. gargantuan bass guitar makes the drums sound kinda small (in parts) though. listened again - maybe I'm just not used to that kind of bass guitar sound, I dunno.
 
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cool stuff. gargantuan bass guitar makes the drums sound kinda small (in parts) though. listened again - maybe I'm just not used to that kind of bass guitar sound, I dunno.
Can't have it all big I s'pose, but I like things bass heavy. At least the drums really KICK when you crank it and turn your the bass up.
 
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ok well 0:20-0:27 definitely needs to be tightened up as does the little bit at 0:59, and while I can tell what you guys were going for at 1:03, the execution, particularly on the drums, could be better.

they're all minor things though...I'm just nitpicking, because when I hear something as tight and well recorded as this, it's that last 1-2% that makes all the difference.
Oh. About that 0:20-0:27. The blast beat is inverse. Damo hit the ride on the off beat which gives it a weird feel, but it is in time.

0:59 is one of my favourite parts :(. I guess my choppy, funk influenced chords where a bit hard to follow, but it doesn't stick out to me as anything that needs redoing.

At 1:03 he did this Tool thing where the kicks go, 8th, triplet, 16th and 16th triplet which when juxtaposed over the triplet dimished, I had no f-ing idea what to do with it so I left it.

On the whole, I think it's pretty beast to showcase my studio relocation. I also love the guitar tone I got and will make sure I never forget about that rig. Our official studio albums are never anything but nut tight :)
 
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cool stuff. gargantuan bass guitar makes the drums sound kinda small (in parts) though. listened again - maybe I'm just not used to that kind of bass guitar sound, I dunno.
I'll certainely take that as a compliment. I'd like to think we're a metal that people wouldn't be used to yet. Gotta change the game!
 
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I'll certainely take that as a compliment. I'd like to think we're a metal that people wouldn't be used to yet. Gotta change the game!

Yeah, I believe most good metal stuff has a shock value at first; not easy to pull off.
 
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Yeah, I believe most good metal stuff has a shock value at first; not easy to pull off.
Fragmenta (the band) did that from our very first gig. I'll never forget it. We changed the whole scene down here from that day forth.

The second album is coming to me so easily too, I've got so many choice song ideas so it will definitely measure up to what we've started!

(this clip isn't a song or anything, it's Myself, Damien and my housemate on bass to basically practice with the new set up).

However, I do have an instrumental demo for one of the band's new songs, I just don't have such a good feeling about posting it before the deed is done.
 
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I see your back to a four piece band.

The drums sound like they're made out plastic to me.
 
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I see your back to a four piece band.

The drums sound like they're made out plastic to me.
Wrong. I'm still sole guitarist, I just added a second track to the other side after the live one. The drums are actually made of maple. The only plastic in them would be mixed with the polyester content in the Evans heads.
 
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Wrong. I'm still sole guitarist, I just added a second track to the other side after the live one. The drums are actually made of maple. The only plastic in them would be mixed with the polyester content in the Evans heads.

I read it in your News for 2012 at your site, is it out of date or wrong ?

I guessed they're real drums but they sound like plastic. Your mix is all bottom end top end and there's no depth to the snare or anything in the mid range and the bass drum sounds like some one slapping a plastic sheet.

I'm listening to it on good monitors with 12" woofers and midranges and a tweeters.


EG; I mixed this track but I'm not responsible for the recording or playing. It was done close to 12 or more years ago on mainly analog equipment.
- http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=7426626&q=hi&newref=1 -
 
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This mix has probably gotten the most critiques of any I've seen on here.


I thought it was friggin' great.
 
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I read it in your News for 2012 at your site, is it out of date or wrong ?

I guessed they're real drums but they sound like plastic. Your mix is all bottom end top end and there's no depth to the snare or anything in the mid range and the bass drum sounds like some one slapping a plastic sheet.

I'm listening to it on good monitors with 12" woofers and midranges and a tweeters.


EG; I mixed this track but I'm not responsible for the recording or playing. It was done close to 12 or more years ago on mainly analog equipment.
- http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=7426626&q=hi&newref=1 -
Ah, I should probably make sure that all gets up to date then. Why don't you just EQ it to taste on your stereo?

I'm not going to give up on my work and be any less proud of my accomplishments because you all think it sucks.

I really don't want to have to fight, but I sincerely hope you're not trying to one up with me with that mix. The drums don't have any punch and the body of the snare is lost under the hi-hats. It's very dry and reminds me of an 80s demo tape. The guitar sound certainly has nothing on what I got in my clip.

It's loose, raw and I can understand if you're just trying to show me your taste of under-produced punky type stuff, but if you believe that it's superior to mine, I don't agree. I think that it's just not to your taste and you seem to think that if it's not to your taste it sucks and I should do it all over again to your standard.

I don't want to, I liked how it turned out.

This mix has probably gotten the most critiques of any I've seen on here.


I thought it was friggin' great.

Thanks. I'm glad there's some people who just dig the music from a good jam.
 
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Ah, I should probably make sure that all gets up to date then. Why don't you just EQ it to taste on your stereo?

Because it's in the mix.
I'm not going to give up on my work and be any less proud of my accomplishments because you all think it sucks.

? I didn't say I think it sucks, I said it's got no midrange.
I really don't want to have to fight, but I sincerely hope you're not trying to one up with me with that mix. The drums don't have any punch and the body of the snare is lost under the hi-hats. It's very dry and reminds me of an 80s demo tape. The guitar sound certainly has nothing on what I got in my clip.

The drums don't have any punch and the body of the snare is lost under the hi-hats. - Well yours are all bottom end, no punch and your snare dies in the mid range and is masked by all your top end/bottom end, you've got the crack of the snare and nothing else, pretty much the same as your critique of mine.
It's very dry and reminds me of an 80s demo tape. Because that's the way they wanted it, " No effects man ".
It's loose, raw and I can understand if you're just trying to show me your taste of under-produced punky type stuff, but if you believe that it's superior to mine, I don't agree. I think that it's just not to your taste and you seem to think that if it's not to your taste it sucks and I should do it all over again to your standard.

Well that's a crazy interpretation. I linked it as an example of a mix relative to the snare sound/ mid range of the mix. It has nothing to do with the musical style or one upmanship, let alone " do it all again to my standard " .

Your really on the defensive here Duncan and all I was doing was saying how it sounded to me. If you want to take it as anything more than that your being nutty
I don't want to, I liked how it turned out.

Show me where I said you should do this ?
- http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11924718 -
Maybe I should've suggested Everdrones track instead of mine as an example of the snare and mid range of a recording. It's got body to it, the whole recording has. I'm listening to it or yours from the same source, the net. Yours is thin and no balls by comparison.

You've got me wondering how you're monitoring EQ is set, because in comparison to many of the mixes here your coming up this way. It's happening at your end of the recording chain.
Has this got something to do with it ?
On the whole, I think it's pretty beast to showcase my studio relocation.
But after all, this is just one opinion. Take it or leave it but don't make it out to be some thing it's not.
 
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