I picked up a Knaggs Kenai today that has these stock. Demos like the ones I 'm going to post below had me thinking they were going to be hotter. But they're far closer to PAFs than I expected. They have a certain clarity without being too bright yet also just sound a little fuller than most PAF type pickups I've tried. It's a subtle difference, not in your face. Maybe that's to be expected? Maybe I really don't know what pickups 70's and 80's Arena Rock acts used? I just think demos really undersell how good these are for playing clean.