WICKED LESTER
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a different magnet? that is what i just read! :smack:
Say what? is this true? the JB is a DD with
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WICKED LESTER
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Re: Say what? is this true? the JB is a DD with
really? so the JB is a DD lite? :laugh2:
Xeromus said:
really? so the JB is a DD lite? :laugh2:
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DeadSkinSlayer3
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Re: Say what? is this true? the JB is a DD with
Yeah, it's true. I wouldn't say that the JB is a DD lite though. The Custom is more of a DD lite.
JB > DD anyday for me
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Yeah, it's true. I wouldn't say that the JB is a DD lite though. The Custom is more of a DD lite.
JB > DD anyday for me
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JB_From_Hell
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Re: Say what? is this true? the JB is a DD with
Pretty much. Ready for your head to really spin? The Invader is the same thing with 3 magnets & big pole pieces
Pretty much. Ready for your head to really spin? The Invader is the same thing with 3 magnets & big pole pieces
WICKED LESTER
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Re: Say what? is this true? the JB is a DD with
:smack: are you serious? :laugh2:
well in all fairness to duncan they all SOUND totally different from one another and that is what matters! :cool3:
JB_From_Hell said:Pretty much. Ready for your head to really spin? The Invader is the same thing with 3 magnets & big pole pieces
:smack: are you serious? :laugh2:
well in all fairness to duncan they all SOUND totally different from one another and that is what matters! :cool3:
Davey
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Re: Say what? is this true? the JB is a DD with
no it's not
for one, both the DD and Invader are wound hotter. i dont know the gauge or type of the wire used for them, but that is also a factor.
if you'd put a ceramic on a JB, it wouldnt sound as the DD and vice versa. the invader is a totaly diferent thing too
no it's not
for one, both the DD and Invader are wound hotter. i dont know the gauge or type of the wire used for them, but that is also a factor.
if you'd put a ceramic on a JB, it wouldnt sound as the DD and vice versa. the invader is a totaly diferent thing too
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Breogan
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Re: Say what? is this true? the JB is a DD with
+1. There's no explicit referece in SD web page that confirms that. If you check C5 description you'll see they say CC,C5 and Custom has the same windding. But it doesn't say anything about JB and DD being the same winding.
Davey said:
+1. There's no explicit referece in SD web page that confirms that. If you check C5 description you'll see they say CC,C5 and Custom has the same windding. But it doesn't say anything about JB and DD being the same winding.
Aceman
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Re: Say what? is this true? the JB is a DD with
And just like guitars - I'm sure a mag type and windings and pole size all interact in freaky ways, just like scale length, fret wood and body wood do....I'm not surprised that they all sound different even though production is a little tweek.
And just like guitars - I'm sure a mag type and windings and pole size all interact in freaky ways, just like scale length, fret wood and body wood do....I'm not surprised that they all sound different even though production is a little tweek.
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DeadSkinSlayer3
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Re: Say what? is this true? the JB is a DD with
Incorrect. All pickups are going to have different DC Resistances. I have a DD that's wound at 15.5 K, and a JB that's wound at 17.3K.
You are right, if you put a ceramic in a JB, it wouldn't sound like a DD. If you put a large ceramic magnet in though, one twice the girth of a standard, it would sound exactly like it. I've A/B'd the two pickups, a JB with a large ceramic from a DD, and an actual DD, and they are the same pickup.
Davey said:
Incorrect. All pickups are going to have different DC Resistances. I have a DD that's wound at 15.5 K, and a JB that's wound at 17.3K.
You are right, if you put a ceramic in a JB, it wouldn't sound like a DD. If you put a large ceramic magnet in though, one twice the girth of a standard, it would sound exactly like it. I've A/B'd the two pickups, a JB with a large ceramic from a DD, and an actual DD, and they are the same pickup.
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DeadSkinSlayer3
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Re: Say what? is this true? the JB is a DD with
No they aren't. Take a multimeter and go into a store, and say you're looking for a specific output in a pickup. Measure 4 brand new SD pickups side by side, of the same model and color. Each will read differently.
No they aren't. Take a multimeter and go into a store, and say you're looking for a specific output in a pickup. Measure 4 brand new SD pickups side by side, of the same model and color. Each will read differently.
FireBros.
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Re: Say what? is this true? the JB is a DD with
This is my interpretation of Evans explanation of why every pickup has a slightly different DC resistance.
Their wire is +- 5% tolerance (guage size), and they are wound to an exact number of turns, that should result in a specific dc resistance, so accordingly they will have about a 5% tolerance in DC resistance from the published spec.
This is my interpretation of Evans explanation of why every pickup has a slightly different DC resistance.
Their wire is +- 5% tolerance (guage size), and they are wound to an exact number of turns, that should result in a specific dc resistance, so accordingly they will have about a 5% tolerance in DC resistance from the published spec.
Zerberus
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Re: Say what? is this true? the JB is a DD with
Manufacturing tolerances (more specifically: Wire) ....I´ve had factory new JBs ranging pretty exactly from 16 -17K
And IIRC it was confirmed by Jessica (SD A+R) some time ago that the JB, Invader and DD are in fact the exact same wind with different magnets and (in the Invader) different polepieces. Although I cannot verify this information, as it is second hand.....
motorhead said:
Manufacturing tolerances (more specifically: Wire) ....I´ve had factory new JBs ranging pretty exactly from 16 -17K
And IIRC it was confirmed by Jessica (SD A+R) some time ago that the JB, Invader and DD are in fact the exact same wind with different magnets and (in the Invader) different polepieces. Although I cannot verify this information, as it is second hand.....
the guy who invented fire
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Re: Say what? is this true? the JB is a DD with
This has been talked to death guys...the JB, DD, and Invader all 3 use the same coils...the differences in DC is just a difference from pickup to pickup
This has been talked to death guys...the JB, DD, and Invader all 3 use the same coils...the differences in DC is just a difference from pickup to pickup
motorhead
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Re: Say what? is this true? the JB is a DD with
Well, I went measure 5 JBs in my shop and they all hit 16.4K. Some on those JBs are 10 years old. That's what I'm looking for when I buy a JB so it better not be overwound. If Fralin can overwind by around 5% then Duncan better be able to hit it's advertised mark
Zerberus said:Manufacturing tolerances (more specifically: Wire) ....I´ve had factory new JBs ranging pretty exactly from 16 -17K
Well, I went measure 5 JBs in my shop and they all hit 16.4K. Some on those JBs are 10 years old. That's what I'm looking for when I buy a JB so it better not be overwound. If Fralin can overwind by around 5% then Duncan better be able to hit it's advertised mark
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