Saying a LP is too heavy is like saying a Ferrari is too fast ...
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Phantasmagoria
watch where you point that sabre
Well, why would'nt you bothered by the heel? And that's just one of many other shortcomings that need to be overcome to play fast, tap etc. They're great guitar's for rock & blues (and I guess jazz..though it's not my thing) and sure you can play metal and shred on them (as you can on a 335) but there are way better guitars more specifically geared towards that imo..
beaubrummels
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Les Pauls are certainly more favored for the inimitable sound they make, than their ergonomics. But some players adapt and make it work.
I have to say that thinner, "shreddier" guitars are less comfortable to me overall. I will take good fretwork and setup on a Gibson over a superstrat any day. I find some lead playing marginally easier on my longer-scale neck through guitars with smoothed-out heels, but practically speaking it's never been a problem. It doesn't outweigh the difference in overall utility for the vast majority of what I play. Horses for courses; I am not a "shredder" and I don't do anything massively technical.
Gibson LP and Explorer ergonomics are just right for me, also. 24.75" scale, tune-o-matic, 4-ish degree neck angle, I'm at home. I have a Schecter Explorer with a 25.5" scale and a slightly flatter neck angle and that slight difference makes for a bunch of shoulder pain, and the thin neck doesn't feel right in my hand. I can get used to it but it's never truly just right.
Gibson LP and Explorer ergonomics are just right for me, also. 24.75" scale, tune-o-matic, 4-ish degree neck angle, I'm at home. I have a Schecter Explorer with a 25.5" scale and a slightly flatter neck angle and that slight difference makes for a bunch of shoulder pain, and the thin neck doesn't feel right in my hand. I can get used to it but it's never truly just right.
Securb
One of Jerry's Kids
Sorry, great player's al of them, but that does'nt change the fact they're speeding in VW Beetle's....not Ferrari's
That makes no sense.
solspirit
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well, it's like the Camry vs the Ferrari. Believe it or not you can have as many intense hair raising experiences in a Camry doing 50 mph as you can with a Ferrari at 150 mph.
It's really all about the driver
solspirit
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I almost mentioned that, it's pretty much about what you were raised on, or cut your teeth on, when I was a kid they seemed monstruos and the strat profile just seemed to fit me.
I am in no way knocking the guitar, it just ain't for me.
Securb
One of Jerry's Kids
You are not getting the fact that what you play is your preference. There are plenty of people myself included that play metal on LPs and prefer to. If a Les Paul is not your cup of tea it is exactly that. Some people hate tea and love coffee. But there is nothing about a Les Paul that impedes someone's playing or technique. It is not as if Randy Rhoade could miraculously play faster and cleaner on his Jackson than the Les Paul. If that was the case, he would have never picked up the Les Paul again. We get it you do not like Les Pauls. this might shock you, but there might be people on the forum that don't like Corts. That is why we have so many choices and options because no one guitar will ever satisfy all of us.
Rex_Rocker
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I like Les Pauls. No, I love Les Pauls. My dream guitar is a Les Paul.
But I really don't think a Les Paul is the Ferrari of guitars.
But I really don't think a Les Paul is the Ferrari of guitars.
JMP/HBE
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Nobody here did.
Phantasmagoria
watch where you point that sabre
Phantasmagoria
watch where you point that sabre
There is lot's about it that's just that. Slow fat necks, clunky heavy weight, (Really) bad upper fret access. Switch in the wrong place/gets in the way. Cuts into your ribs unless you have it dangling below your balls etc..
Like I said if you'er used to them you will find workarounds. But saying it's "ideal" is factually untrue.
It is not as if Randy Rhoade could miraculously play faster and cleaner on his Jackson than the Les Paul. If that was the case, he would have never picked up the Les Paul again.
He probably thought it looked cool. Randy's idols/guitar hero's were all probably 60's/70' guys playing Les Paul's.
Who's "We" :lmao: Why the insecurity? The thing is ,,you don't get it at all. You are coming from a place of butthurt. Is an LP an ideal guitar for shred ..no it's not. Feel free to disagree and next time list out the reasons why it plays faster than your average superstrat (like I did the opposite of).
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Phantasmagoria
watch where you point that sabre
Honestly all that does is reaffirm what a shitty place the switch is in for tapping . If he was moving from the top to the bottom (ie horizontally across the fretboard he would have been knocking that switch up and down all day long...especially if it was a guitar he was'nt used to. (which he obviously is..hence my comment about finding workarounds/compensating).
For instance as all Les Paul owner's know, you never thunk that sucker down upright hard on the floor, cuz the neck might (probably will) break in two... :laugh2:
For instance as all Les Paul owner's know, you never thunk that sucker down upright hard on the floor, cuz the neck might (probably will) break in two... :laugh2:
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