Schaller 2n1 vs Super D

[Sam SG]

Anyone know anything about Schaller pickups?
Specifically thier 2n1. Are they a 1 for 1 clone of a DiMarzio Super D?
I have a 1979 O'Hagan Shark and appearantly they came with both Schaller and DiMarzio pickups. A Super D and Paf.
Im not sure which my guitar has but i know they are original as my father bought the guitar new in 1979.

 

[Mincer]

Other than the fact Ritchie Blackmore used their version of a Quarter Pound in his main Strat for years, I never tried them myself.

 

[freefrog]

No experience with the Super D clone but generally, Schaller are good German pickups that I'd rank at the same level than Mighty Mite, for instance.

Heritage guitars mounted Golden 50 humbuckers as stock pickups, if memory serves me - Golden 50's that I find misnamed since they are actually closer to... T-Tops. It's as T-Top substitutes that Michael Schenker used these puppies for a while.

FWIW - The usual rambling from an old fart.

 

[Sam SG]

These pups definetly sound and look like DiMarzio Super D( bridge) and the neck looks like a standard one screw coil one slug type and have a clear low output scooped sound like a paf.
Maybe sometime ill pull one out and see what/if anything is on the bottum.
Sound great for what they are and id never change this guitar anyways, just curious about what they are

 

[nienturi]

No experience with the Super D clone but generally, Schaller are good German pickups that I'd rank at the same level than Mighty Mite, for instance.

Heritage guitars mounted Golden 50 humbuckers as stock pickups, if memory serves me - Golden 50's that I find misnamed since they are actually closer to... T-Tops. It's as T-Top substitutes that Michael Schenker used these puppies for a while.

FWIW - The usual rambling from an old fart.

Real problem with them is Schaller gives very limited information about them. In Turkiye Schaller is very popular among the baglama players so finding a Schaller X2N copy is much easier than finding a '78, 59/Custom Hybrid or Dimarzio Fortitude or Bluesbucker

 

[freefrog]

Real problem with them is Schaller gives very limited information about them.

Yes, information is hard to find.
When it can be found, it appears as an attempt to be precise and accurate, though.
Example below - making me wonder at which frequency they test inductance... and if they haven't accidentally swapped their pictures of resonant peaks for series / parallel operations.
For the record, I've tested a Golden 50 neck in various guitars: the AlNiCo bar had nothing special and the coils were wound with poly insulated wire, not with PE... IOW, it was a kind of SH-2 / T-Top clone on a brass baseplate.

 

[freefrog]

A page about the 2in1 below. Specs seem extremely close to those of a DM Super D.

 

[nienturi]

Yes, information is hard to find.
When it can be found, it appears as an attempt to be precise and accurate, though.
Example below - making me wonder at which frequency they test inductance... and if they haven't accidentally swapped their pictures of resonant peaks for series / parallel operations.
For the record, I've tested a Golden 50 neck in various guitars: the AlNiCo bar had nothing special and the coils were wound with poly insulated wire, not with PE... IOW, it was a kind of SH-2 / T-Top clone on a brass baseplate.

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Dimarzios old pickup data was also great, you knıow;

I don't know the frequency of the inductance test but could be 120 or 150KHz.

BTW, i have never seen those ads you shared. Thank you a lot

 

[Sam SG]

Ah thats interesting. My pickups have the pointy mounting ears like DiMarzio and only 2 conductor wires.

 

[freefrog]

Dimarzios old pickup data was also great, you knıow;

Yep, I was not far to post the same old ad to complete my previous answer.

Regarding the frequency used by Schaller to measure the inductance, I'd say it's 1khz: it gives higher inductive readings, like in their catalog.

@Sam SG : the excerpts that I've shared are more recent than you PU's, hence potential differences. I don't think the basic recipe has changed in this case, though.

 

[Sam SG]

Ah gotcha. Yea 46yr old guitar prolly has a few differances lol