Schecter Diamond Series S-1 Elite P-Rails Help

[setter7000]

First post here so be gentle. I picked up a Schecter Diamond Series S-1 Elite for super cheap and am planning on changing the pickups out for p-rails. The issue I am having is finding a wiring diagram for the p-rails that works for a 2 vol, 1 mast tone, 3 way switch. I have two options as far as I know, use the triple shot rings (which I have questions about below) or use push/pulls. I don't want to drill additional holes in the body as I want to be able to return it to original. It already comes with one push/pull for series/parallel. I would like to get a diagram that gives me the three modes (hum, p90, single) and the series/parallel. not sure if that is even possible in a 2 vol, 1 mast tone, 3-way switch configuration. I am pretty sure that I would have to give up switching each pup independently like you can with the triple shot rings.

The second option is the triple shot rings. Simpler to accomplish what I need although marginally more expensive. The issue I am having is I don't have access to them locally to get a really good look at which type is right for the guitar. In the net pictures the TS-1 flats look like the neck and bridge ring are both the same height and the TS-2 curved have the shorter neck and taller bridge but also curved left to right to match a carved LP style. The issue I have is the Schecter is what I would call a semi-carved top. The bridge and pickup area is dead flat left to right but slopes from neck to bridge. So if the flat rings are the same height they won't work as the bridge will be short. If I have to use the curved TS-2 I will have to sand down the bottom edges to be flat while maintaining the taper from neck to bridge. Not sure that it can be done without damaging the switches.

I would love some experienced advice on which direction to go and what the story is with the TS rings if my assumptions are true. If the recommendation is to go with the (which I am used to on my Jimmy Page LP) push/pulls a wiring diagram would be greatly apreciated. I was able to find an HH Strat diagram for P-Rails but that is a 1V, 2T config.

Thanks in advance. Attached is a picture of what the body looks like.

 

[akio]

Re: Schecter Diamond Series S-1 Elite P-Rails Help

Ok, forget about sanding the neck position TS-2; the way the wires come off of it it's too risky. Plus you'll never see the carveout gap anyway. The bridge TS-2 does have enough leeway to flatten out, but mock it up first to see if maybe you don't really need to. Another thing you can do is stack a slant ring under a flat TS just for the angle and height boost, at least in the bridge position.

Option #2



Borrowed that from TDPRI. Any two push-pull pots, wire the "hot outs" to your volume controls and/or 3-way switch and you should be set. This won't be independent though, you'll be in whichever mode you select on both pickups, but you will have all 4 modes readily available.

 

[setter7000]

Re: Schecter Diamond Series S-1 Elite P-Rails Help

Ok, forget about sanding the neck position TS-2; the way the wires come off of it it's too risky. Plus you'll never see the carveout gap anyway. The bridge TS-2 does have enough leeway to flatten out, but mock it up first to see if maybe you don't really need to. Another thing you can do is stack a slant ring under a flat TS just for the angle and height boost, at least in the bridge position.

Option #2

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Borrowed that from TDPRI. Any two push-pull pots, wire the "hot outs" to your volume controls and/or 3-way switch and you should be set. This won't be independent though, you'll be in whichever mode you select on both pickups, but you will have all 4 modes readily available.

Thanks. I also just found this diagram. It is a triple shot, 2 vol, 1 tone, and phase but not specifically for the P-Rails. Based on the diagram the phase puts the neck pickup out of phase with the bridge? Is this still correct with using the P-Rails?

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: Schecter Diamond Series S-1 Elite P-Rails Help

Yes. The P-Rails, as great as it is, functions just like any other humbucker pup.