Schecter Omen help/advice

[Securb]

What kinda wood is that?

It is burl poplar over mahogany. It is incredibly light for a mahogany guitar. I think it is lighter than my SG or Parker. The heel is very nice also for upper fret access.

 

[Mincer]

Weird that those woods are so light. Is it hollow and filled with feathers? Look at those specs again.

 

[jeremy]

its not honduran or cuban which are fairly rare and expensive these days, those are the classic mahogany species that were used for guitars. im not sure what passes for mahogany these days. i wish they would worry less about marketing and just tell us what wood they used to build the thing

 

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Truth be told I never focus on wood. My first focus is functionality, then comfort/playability, tone, and after that style and color. If a guitar gets past that point I don't care if it is made of bamboo.

 

[Phantasmagoria]

So how does it sound/play. What are the pup's like?

A few months ago I saw a similar looking Schecter at a store nearby, but it was a six-string & more of a butterscotch/Caramel color w/a floyd. The price was'nt too bad either. It's been at the back of my mind ever since...

I'm hoping that's where it stays :lmao:

 

[Artie]

What CD were you grinding?

 

[Securb]

So how does it sound/play. What are the pup's like?

A few months ago I saw a similar looking Schecter at a store nearby, but it was a six-string & more of a butterscotch/Caramel color w/a floyd. The price was'nt too bad either. It's been at the back of my mind ever since...

I'm hoping that's where it stays :lmao:

I have been playing the hell out of it, but at low volumes. It sounds fantastic. The B is not boomy, and there is no muddiness in the tone. I have been using it as my "sofa" guitar for running scales and exercises. It feels great all the way up and down the neck. I will play it with the band on Saturday through the Carvin cranked. That will be the real tone test. So far, I feel like I got a lot of bang for my buck.

 

[Securb]

What CD were you grinding?

It is data from a customer. At my work, we have to be careful.

 

[Mincer]

Truth be told I never focus on wood. My first focus is functionality, then comfort/playability, tone, and after that style and color. If a guitar gets past that point I don't care if it is made of bamboo.

Same here. It's gotta do what I want, and then, it has to be ergonomically correct for me (I won't compromise on that). Like if the pickup switch is in a place or at an angle that 'I just have to get used to', I won't buy it. Too many other choices that work for me.

 

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I took it to practice and used it for one of the new songs. The guitar sounds incredible through the Carvin. When I got to full volume with the band it didn't punch through the mix the way I like. This is and was expected seeing my rig and settings are not dialed in for a 7 string. I will dial it in sometime this week with my EQ pedal and save a preset for the 7-string. The new song has a slower reprise I played on the neck, what a sweet pickup. Once again not 100% dialed in but I have not played with the pickup or string heights yet. The bridge is ceramic goodness on par with any of my other high-gain pickups.

Dave, I know you do not like 24 fret guitars but they do make a version of the Omen that you should check out.

 

[weepingminotaur]

Truth be told I never focus on wood. My first focus is functionality, then comfort/playability, tone, and after that style and color. If a guitar gets past that point I don't care if it is made of bamboo.

Same, although if I hate the colour or finish, I won't consider it.

I've got a poplar Sterling by Music Man and I have never once cared about the wood. It plays, sounds, and feels great to me.

 

[Mincer]

haha, maybe the neck pickup on this one sounds even better than on a 22 fret guitar!

Dave, I know you do not like 24 fret guitars but they do make a version of the Omen that you should check out.

 

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haha, maybe the neck pickup on this one sounds even better than on a 22 fret guitar!

I was surprised by the Omen's neck pickup. When I went to use the neck for the first time yesterday, I was surprised to find out it was a 5-way switch, not a 3-way. The guitar has coil splitting on positions 2 and 4, and the single coil settings are dead quiet. The bridge split has a very sweet sound but is still very powerful and aggressive. This discovery prompted me to download the guitar's manual and another suprise is the Graphtec nut. Overall I am delighted with this guitar.

 

[Mincer]

I was surprised by the Omen's neck pickup. When I went to use the neck for the first time yesterday, I was surprised to find out it was a 5-way switch, not a 3-way. The guitar has coil splitting on positions 2 and 4, and the single coil settings are dead quiet. The bridge split has a very sweet sound but is still very powerful and aggressive. This discovery prompted me to download the guitar's manual and another suprise is the Graphtec nut. Overall I am delighted with this guitar.

Which coils of each pickup are being used for 2 & 4?

 

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Which coils of each pickup are being used for 2 & 4?

I am not sure I tried tapping on them to figure it out to no avail. Finding information on the pickups and wiring of this guitar is difficult. Most of what I have found is internet speculation and information I can immediately write off as inaccurate.

I did give it a slight truss tweak this morning and it is now perfect 10/10. I still need to dial in the bridge a bit to suit my tastes. I just want to bring down the action a hair more, nothing overly concerning.

 

[Masta' C]

Once you escape the $300-$500 range of budget guitars, Schecter reigns supreme when it comes to overall quality and "bang for the buck" features!

Glad you're liking the Omen!

Side Note: My lightest guitars are solid mahogany, neck and all. Similarly, the lightest Warmoth neck I own is mahogany, as well. Doesn't have to be "heavy" to be awesome!

 

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I have to say I am in love with this guitar. The pickups are amazing, and the action and neck are stellar. Today, I had a part that I would have typically played on the neck pickup. I coil split the bridge and it was just what I wanted. The new tunes I am writing on it are super heavy, and the band is digging the sound. I am looking into buying another as a backup probably in red, because I like it so much. The only weirdness is I picked up my SG after playing the Omen and the neck felt tiny like a pool cue. I will learn to adjust. A six-string Omen with a Sophia could also be in my future.

 

[Mincer]

I still haven't tried a Sophia, but just got a Vega Trem in the mail this week.

 

[Securb]

I think the guitar came with .011 - .062 strings. I just put on .009 -.058 GHS Boomers. I play .009s so I picked up 10 individual .058 Bs which is what is included with the extra light Boomer 7 sets. Less string inventory maintenance and I am saving around $2 per 7-string set. I lightly oiled the back and fretboard, polished the guitar, lubed the nut, and did a truss adjustment & intonation. I am loving the smaller B it feels more guitarlike and less basslike. With the .009s I am flying around the neck, great bends. The cool thing is the strings stretched out very quickly and the tuning stability is awesome. I am going to drag it to practice tomorrow. We have two songs now written on the 7-string.

 

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So how does it sound/play. What are the pup's like?

I did some more digging on the pickups. I have the Heretics, they are powerful and mid-forward on par with my Black WInters, great feel, and touch. The bridge sounds amazing split. Just as aggressive but more articulate with fantastic string separation.

The Schecter Apocalypse 7 and Heretic 7 pickups are both designed for high-output performance, catering to metal and hard rock genres. Here's a comparison of their specifications and magnet configurations:

Schecter Apocalypse 7 Pickups:

• Design: These pickups feature a unique tri-field design, combining Alnico-V magnets with dual flanking Ceramic-8 magnets. This configuration aims to produce a balanced yet aggressive tone, delivering a crushing mid-range while maintaining a tight, focused, and articulate response.
• Magnet Configuration: The center Alnico-V magnet is flanked by two Ceramic-8 magnets, creating a powerful magnetic field that enhances tonal clarity and aggression.
• Output: Designed to provide high output suitable for heavy genres, ensuring clear articulation even under high gain settings.

Schecter Heretic 7 Pickups:

• Design: The Heretic pickups are crafted to produce a balanced yet aggressive and combative tone. They are designed to deliver a crushing mid-range while maintaining a tight, focused, and articulate response.
• Magnet Configuration: These pickups utilize a center Alnico V magnet coupled with Ceramic 8 flanking magnets, similar to the Apocalypse 7 pickups. This setup contributes to their powerful and articulate sound.
• Output: Tailored for rock and metal, the Heretic pickups offer high output, ensuring robust performance in demanding musical contexts.

Comparison:

Both pickup sets employ a combination of Alnico V and Ceramic 8 magnets to achieve high output and aggressive tonal characteristics. The Apocalypse 7 pickups are specifically designed with a tri-field configuration, merging Alnico-V with dual flanking Ceramic-8 magnets, which may offer a more pronounced mid-range and articulate response. In contrast, the Heretic 7 pickups, while also utilizing a similar magnet setup, are crafted to produce a balanced yet aggressive tone, with a focus on a crushing mid-range and tight response.

In summary, both pickup sets are engineered for high-output performance suitable for metal and hard rock genres. The Apocalypse 7 pickups may provide a more pronounced mid-range and articulate response due to their unique tri-field design, while the Heretic 7 pickups focus on delivering a balanced yet aggressive tone with a crushing mid-range.