Scheter vs Ibanez

[dazedandconfused001]

ok i am in the marked for a hh strat type with the whole basswood body maple neck thing cuz my explorer has become.... impractical... so i am stuck between a schecter c-6 deluxe



which i love the look an color but not a fan of 24 frets (i never use the other 2) and ive never played them (have heard nothing but positive about scheter as a whole),also love the fixed bridge thing

and an ibanez gio grx20w



i played on one in a pawn shop and its cheaper, sounds great (was not though my rig though so no idea there), feels awesome, only complaints is that i am not a fan of tremelos, wireing blade switches or the way it felt in drop d but alot of that can be chalked up to bad set up on pawnshops part


any thoughts?

 

[ehdwuld]

Re: Scheter vs Ibanez

I love my Ibbys
The C-1 is nice
Most C-1 come with Duncan designed pickups
If not real Duncan's

Ibanez is probably gonna need new pickups

Ibanez makes a hard tail version of their RG
RG321
I think it has a mahogany body though
Mine is an RG2EX1 hard tail

 

[Χάρης]

Re: Scheter vs Ibanez

Most of the Ibanez/Schecter st-shaped guitars have 24 frets. And most of those who don't, have a tremolo. From my experience, cheap guitars with tremolos is a no go due to tuning instability ( unless you block it ). But that's just me. Which issue is most important to you? And also, what's your budget?

Here are some suggestions that are close to what you want :

Squier 51 Vintage Modified - No tremolo and 21 frets.

IBANEZ GRG121DX - No trem, but 24 frets.

Cort KX5 - Same specs, other company.

 

[Blille]

Scheter vs Ibanez

Consider the Charvel ProMod. It sounds like it fits what you want, I'm loving mine. It's alder though.

http://www.charvel.com/guitars/pro-mod/pro-mod-san-dimas-style-1-hh-ht-maple-fingerboard-snow-white/

 

[Little Pigbacon]

Re: Scheter vs Ibanez

It seems like there used to be a lot of 22-fret, fixed-bridge, HH guitars that weren't Gibson-esque.

Anyway, if the ProMod fits the budget, I'm on board.

 

[Mr. B]

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If you are leaving behind an Explorer, the Ibanez Gio seems like a huge step backwards. It is a cheap intro level guitar at best. The Schecter might be a little better, but is still an intro level guitar. PRS makes several 22 fret models that are Hum-Hum, but they are not basswood. They would be a big step up from the two you listed. I admit that I also don't like 24 fret versions of SOME guitars, but Ibanez seems to have gotten the 24 fret-thing right. They have a ton of hardtail RG versions if you can get past the 24 frets.

 

[probo_squad_henry]

Re: Scheter vs Ibanez

You might be able to find an esp like that, not super sure though

 

[probo_squad_henry]

Re: Scheter vs Ibanez

Just checked, this seems like its what you're looking for:

http://www.espguitars.com/products/17084-sn-200ht-rosewood-sw?category_id=1967930-sn-series-guitars

 

[dazedandconfused001]

Re: Scheter vs Ibanez

ok 1st off phooey on me for not being on alot more responses than i originally anticipatted lol warning long response ahead:

I love my Ibbys
The C-1 is nice
Most C-1 come with Duncan designed pickups
If not real Duncan's

Ibanez is probably gonna need new pickups

Ibanez makes a hard tail version of their RG
RG321
I think it has a mahogany body though
Mine is an RG2EX1 hard tail

i mostly like the shape of the schecter, and to be honest ima sucker for a matching headstock, but pickups arent a prob cuz imma take the dimarzios outta the explorer.

Most of the Ibanez/Schecter st-shaped guitars have 24 frets. And most of those who don't, have a tremolo. From my experience, cheap guitars with tremolos is a no go due to tuning instability ( unless you block it ). But that's just me. Which issue is most important to you? And also, what's your budget?

Here are some suggestions that are close to what you want :

Squier 51 Vintage Modified - No tremolo and 21 frets.

IBANEZ GRG121DX - No trem, but 24 frets.

Cort KX5 - Same specs, other company.

only real reason i dont like 24 frets is i never ever use em but you kno i also am not in the market for a 15 fret guitar so ill suck it up lol the reason im goin cheap is my budget is >300 but honestly the tuning thing is reason i dont wanna trem so yeah ive never run into a trem i like but that because i dont come a cross many high end guitars. most important issue honestly is weight. the damn thing hurts my back after 20 min. as far as suggestions go i love the look of the squier an it is on my gas list for the future but for now i need hh, the issue with the ibby is kinda petty but i am afraid to rewire a blade switch never done it before and would hate to **** up a good guitar, honestly i forgot cort existed for awihle there looks nice an such but ive had to many black guitars and well again im a sucker for a matching headstock.

Consider the Charvel ProMod. It sounds like it fits what you want, I'm loving mine. It's alder though.

http://www.charvel.com/guitars/pro-mod/pro-mod-san-dimas-style-1-hh-ht-maple-fingerboard-snow-white/

ooo pretty, *sees wallet weeping* not as pretty.......

If you are leaving behind an Explorer, the Ibanez Gio seems like a huge step backwards. It is a cheap intro level guitar at best. The Schecter might be a little better, but is still an intro level guitar. PRS makes several 22 fret models that are Hum-Hum, but they are not basswood. They would be a big step up from the two you listed. I admit that I also don't like 24 fret versions of SOME guitars, but Ibanez seems to have gotten the 24 fret-thing right. They have a ton of hardtail RG versions if you can get past the 24 frets.

its an epi explorer goth, so not THAT huge a step, the ibanez gio had great fret work and a good neck feel just i hate trems and want a white guitar with a matching headstock. and you dont always get what you pay for. as far as intro level guitars go if i restriced my self to the 500 and up range id be hard pressed to find a bass wood guitar that i wanted to use without being anxiety ridden the goal for me is light, nice looking, and good feel. i can pickup swap later.

You might be able to find an esp like that, not super sure though

originallt was gonna go for an esp m-10 in white but they dont have it in white any more, and i dont wanna rewire a blad toggle as far as the other guitar i like it but i cant stand single coil pups... idk why just weird me out

thanks all for the input but im probly goin for the scheter..... it calls to me.....

 

[playas]

Re: Scheter vs Ibanez

Musicman axis are 22 fret with basswood bodies as far as I know. You can also choose between sterling and MM branded and possibly other cheaper branded models. There are super sport non trem models. Don't know if they have an all white finish like the schecter and ibanez but may be helpful.

 

[treyhaislip]

Re: Scheter vs Ibanez

Both are good values for the money, IMO. I personally prefer the Schecter necks to Ibanez.

 

[Blille]

Re: Scheter vs Ibanez

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only real reason i dont like 24 frets is i never ever use em but you kno i also am not in the market for a 15 fret guitar so ill suck it up lol

thanks all for the input but im probly goin for the scheter..... it calls to me.....

It looks like the better choice of the two.

Since nobody said it, I wanted to mention that IMHO the tone from the neck pickup has an advantage on a 21/22 fret guitar since it's placed higher where the 24th fret would fall. IME it's more true in cleans with single coils but I thought I would mention it

 

[uOpt]

Re: Scheter vs Ibanez

The cheaper Ibanez and Schecter are very similar in quality as far as the wood and hardware is concerned. Ibanez offers more variety and Schecter more blind, but that doesn't matter if you already decided on model. I have some concerns that Schecter has models with really bad pickups in them.

As far as model is concerned, that hardtail with Fender scale and a humbucker in the bridge might be very, very boomy on the neck pickup. I would not buy this before being able to check for that.

That non-locking tremolo on the Ibanez looks like a bridge that I typically like in long scale guitars.

 

[greekdude]

Re: Scheter vs Ibanez

It looks like the better choice of the two.

Since nobody said it, I wanted to mention that IMHO the tone from the neck pickup has an advantage on a 21/22 fret guitar since it's placed higher where the 24th fret would fall. IME it's more true in cleans with single coils but I thought I would mention it

For this reason you can get squeals much easier and natural harmonics on the 24 fret, when using the neck pup. Even fewer ppl mention this.

 

[elelpe]

Re: Scheter vs Ibanez

Pacifica 120H

Alder body
Rosewood on maple neck
22 frets
Cheap

 

[Artie]

Re: Scheter vs Ibanez

I have some concerns that Schecter has models with really bad pickups in them.

That can be a problem. :cool2:

 

[NiKo Zed]

Re: Scheter vs Ibanez

Pacifica 120H

Alder body
Rosewood on maple neck
22 frets
Cheap

so much yes

 

[Blille]

Re: Scheter vs Ibanez

so much yes

+1 to the Yamaha, they are hard to beat in terms of value.

You may need to bling it up a bit though

 

[Progbusters]

Re: Scheter vs Ibanez

Schecter. They're lighter and look more contemporary.

 

[Jocelyn]

Re: Scheter vs Ibanez

Another one for the yamaha . IMO they tend to get underrated.

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