School Me on Flangers

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I'm looking at getting a Boss BF-3. I've heard flangers are extremely versatile, but most people don't like them because it's very easy to dial in a bad over the top wooshy sound if you aren't careful.

How do I get a feel for how they work so I can use a flanger to its fullest?
 
I haven't tried that one. I like flangers for a bit of flavor, especially for moody clean parts or some texture when I'm using synth sounds out of the HOG pedal and suchlike. Not a basic tone element but great if used sparingly in the right spots. Slow speeds for neat "jet engine" effects, fast and subtle to sound a bit like a rotary speaker, lots of middle ground for psychedelic effects. The best way to get a feel for it is to just plug it in and try it. If you use other pedals it's fun to experiment with how it affects the sound at different spots in the signal path. Could work well in an effects loop too, depending on your amp. There is no one right answer.
 
I have a couple, and there are a few I have owned. I have a MIJ Black Label BOSS BF-2 that I love. But as you said, it can get very whooshy, but that is what I love about it.However, it is easy to dial in very subtle effects with the pedal. I had the MXR 117R, which sounded fantastic, with great extreme to subtle settings. The one thing I hated was it had a volume drop when engaged. My first flanger was an MXR Micro Flang which I like more than the larger 4-knob MXR. These days I use the flanger n the H9 or the H90. I also have a Moog Moogerfooger MF-108M Cluster Flux, which is the best analog flanger I have ever played, but they were very expensive when they were released and now collectors have driven the price of them out of reach for most people.

Here is me with the MXR Micro many years back

 
I have a BF-2, but it's hard to get a good sound out of it. The BF-3 looks interesting, but I can't see 'ultra' as an improvement. If anything, mine from standard would need a 'less' mode to be really useful frequently. The momentary thing looks like an awesome addition. That looks very useful.

My general principle that works for almost all modulation effects is to reduce or increase depth vs rate in reverse correlation; e.g. if you have a 100% depth, it will sound better if you use the least amount of rate, and vice-versa, if you have a high rate, reduce the depth significantly to avoid an unintelligible warbling wash of blah.
 
All I know is that for me, the only flanger sound, and the only flanger that I will ever need is the MXR EVH flanger on the EVH setting.
 
I have a couple, and there are a few I have owned. I have a MIJ Black Label BOSS BF-2 that I love. But as you said, it can get very whooshy, but that is what I love about it.However, it is easy to dial in very subtle effects with the pedal. I had the MXR 117R, which sounded fantastic, with great extreme to subtle settings. The one thing I hated was it had a volume drop when engaged. My first flanger was an MXR Micro Flang which I like more than the larger 4-knob MXR. These days I use the flanger n the H9 or the H90. I also have a Moog Moogerfooger MF-108M Cluster Flux, which is the best analog flanger I have ever played, but they were very expensive when they were released and now collectors have driven the price of them out of reach for most people.

Here is me with the MXR Micro many years back


Haha, thats the second time Ive heard that one -sliding on the fretboard like a damn psycho! love it.
 
I have a BF-2, but it's hard to get a good sound out of it. The BF-3 looks interesting, but I can't see 'ultra' as an improvement. If anything, mine from standard would need a 'less' mode to be really useful frequently. The momentary thing looks like an awesome addition. That looks very useful.

My general principle that works for almost all modulation effects is to reduce or increase depth vs rate in reverse correlation; e.g. if you have a 100% depth, it will sound better if you use the least amount of rate, and vice-versa, if you have a high rate, reduce the depth significantly to avoid an unintelligible warbling wash of blah.

One of my plans before the year is out is to design a single knob univibe built off this principle. Fully CC is high rate low depth, fully clockwise is low rate high depth.
 
But as to figure out how a flanger works, first try using to mimic other effects, mark those settings down on paper, then try to tweak those sounds to get something new.
 
It's very easy to overdo flanging. If you set a flanger so that it's pretty slow and not too wide you get a decently usable chorus-y thing going on though. Think Summer's playing in the Police, or Pink Floyd's The Wall - that's a good place to aim for as a start I figure.

You might also want to experiment with effect chain placement. Post gain, flanging is very prominent and sometimes a little overbearing. Before your gain it can blend in better with your overall guitar sound but sometimes gets lost.
 
I'm really a chorus guy, But tasteful and subtle use of Flange is a wonderful thing.

Remember - a 4 knob Flanger can chorus, but a chorus can't Flange

I think that today, for the money, the BF-3 is a helluva lot of Flanger. That said - the big three, IMO, are the Electric Mistress by EHX, The A/DA Flanger, and the MXR M117 (The EVH box). Since the ADA is pretty much unobtanium, let's consider the others

The MXR is all about the VH sounds, obviously, so you know what that can do.
The Misteress is Pink Floyd/Police


The Mooer Electric Lady is a very popular cheap clone. Give it a try and see if Flange Works for you.

Recently I used a Flanger to play the intro to Rock & Roll Fantasy, and I always use one for arpeggios in Down Boys by Warrant. That little bass riff on VH Ain't Talking Bout Love is a Flanger. Used for just that little bass riff to make it pop. Notice it isn't used most of the song? A reason I love the momentary switching on the BF3
 
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