Marshall_Abuser
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Re: SD Blackout vs. EMG 81/85
Why do you push Blackouts up when you've never tried EMGs ? Same thing.
Why do you push Blackouts up when you've never tried EMGs ? Same thing.
SD Blackout vs. EMG 81/85
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Diocletian
BrandNewGlossologist
Re: SD Blackout vs. EMG 81/85
No it's not, cause I don't say Blackouts are better than EMGs the way you do. I admit I never played EMGs, whereas you always post in Blackout threads as if you know what you're talking about.
I also always think EMGs would be better than Blackouts in certain guitars - every guitar reacts differently to each kind of pickup.
Truth be told, although I like my Blackouts a lot, I prefer my JB, Distortion and Alnico 2 Pros.
I just don't understand people posting advice in forums about something they don't know anything about.
No it's not, cause I don't say Blackouts are better than EMGs the way you do. I admit I never played EMGs, whereas you always post in Blackout threads as if you know what you're talking about.
I also always think EMGs would be better than Blackouts in certain guitars - every guitar reacts differently to each kind of pickup.
Truth be told, although I like my Blackouts a lot, I prefer my JB, Distortion and Alnico 2 Pros.
I just don't understand people posting advice in forums about something they don't know anything about.
Marshall_Abuser
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Re: SD Blackout vs. EMG 81/85
The fact that I feel like EMG was being copied by Duncan (and the agressive advertising by Duncan pretending their Blackouts are better and have more tone) might affect my judgment. But as I said before, I think you are right and will try Blackouts ASAP at a local store so that next time we won't have this kind of argument.
The fact that I feel like EMG was being copied by Duncan (and the agressive advertising by Duncan pretending their Blackouts are better and have more tone) might affect my judgment. But as I said before, I think you are right and will try Blackouts ASAP at a local store so that next time we won't have this kind of argument.
krankguitarist
Krankitupologist
Re: SD Blackout vs. EMG 81/85
Aye, respectable enough, if you don't wanna try em and you're happy with what you got, why fix what aint broke?
But to tout the superiority of EMGs over blackouts without having any real-world knowledge about the latter makes your arguments a bit hollow, you see? Severely lacking in substance.
Virtual_kevorkian here clearly lays out why he likes EMG's more than blackouts, and while I think he's friggin nuts (
), I respect his opinion, cause I know that he's a solid player and very thorough with his gear.
I'd ask that you reserve judgment until you've had some experience with blackouts, but that's up to you bro.
It's cool that you like EMG's so much. If they work for you, they work for you. But this is only guitar gear we're talking about...try not to take it to heart
.
*edit* I see that much of what I have said has already been covered...oh well. Peace.
Aye, respectable enough, if you don't wanna try em and you're happy with what you got, why fix what aint broke?
But to tout the superiority of EMGs over blackouts without having any real-world knowledge about the latter makes your arguments a bit hollow, you see? Severely lacking in substance.
Virtual_kevorkian here clearly lays out why he likes EMG's more than blackouts, and while I think he's friggin nuts (
), I respect his opinion, cause I know that he's a solid player and very thorough with his gear.I'd ask that you reserve judgment until you've had some experience with blackouts, but that's up to you bro.
It's cool that you like EMG's so much. If they work for you, they work for you. But this is only guitar gear we're talking about...try not to take it to heart
.*edit* I see that much of what I have said has already been covered...oh well. Peace
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jmh151
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Re: SD Blackout vs. EMG 81/85
I could see that. The Blackouts can be a little full, and the EMG's are thinner allowing you to cut through.
I could see that. The Blackouts can be a little full, and the EMG's are thinner allowing you to cut through.
Marshall_Abuser
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Re: SD Blackout vs. EMG 81/85
Yep!
My favorite EMG combos are :
85 bridge and 60 neck
81 bridge and 60 neck
I dislike either the 85 or 81 in the neck slot, but the 81 is a bit better.
Yep!
My favorite EMG combos are :
85 bridge and 60 neck
81 bridge and 60 neck
I dislike either the 85 or 81 in the neck slot, but the 81 is a bit better.
Petrovsk Mizinski
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Re: SD Blackout vs. EMG 81/85
Strangely, I tend to think Seymour Duncan are making some of the best active pickups you can buy.
I like SD's actives more than all their passive range and at least for now anyway, I never intend to buy passive SDs again, because their actives are so amazing.
When I heard an A-B comparison of the EMG 707s versus the 7 string Blackouts, the SDs were simply far better.
The 707s are not bad, just 'lacking, but the SDs have it all covered.
Clearer, more articulate, less compressed, better clean tone and less noise.
Strangely, I tend to think Seymour Duncan are making some of the best active pickups you can buy.
I like SD's actives more than all their passive range and at least for now anyway, I never intend to buy passive SDs again, because their actives are so amazing.
When I heard an A-B comparison of the EMG 707s versus the 7 string Blackouts, the SDs were simply far better.
The 707s are not bad, just 'lacking, but the SDs have it all covered.
Clearer, more articulate, less compressed, better clean tone and less noise.
JB_From_Hell
Jomo's Nimions
Re: SD Blackout vs. EMG 81/85
That's the three I meant. I know the 89 is popular as well, so maybe I should've said 4, but since it's a splittable version of the 85....
That's the three I meant. I know the 89 is popular as well, so maybe I should've said 4, but since it's a splittable version of the 85....
Marshall_Abuser
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Re: SD Blackout vs. EMG 81/85
Well, what I like about the EMGs is that they are compressed and very smooth in the top end (like : less clear).
I play leads only (never rhythm) and I don't need a clear pickup, just something that can handle maxed out gain and FX while maintaining a certain level of clarity and never being harsh.
Also, the noise argument just bugs me a lot...I NEVER EVER had noise problems with my EMGs, they are extremely quiet compared to any passive pickup I've had. I can't imagine someone needing an improvement over EMGs as far as noise is considered. The noise floor with the EMGs is already in the -90dBs, which is excellent, no need to improve on that.
Such a bogus argument by Seymour Duncan IMO
Well, what I like about the EMGs is that they are compressed and very smooth in the top end (like : less clear).
I play leads only (never rhythm) and I don't need a clear pickup, just something that can handle maxed out gain and FX while maintaining a certain level of clarity and never being harsh.
Also, the noise argument just bugs me a lot...I NEVER EVER had noise problems with my EMGs, they are extremely quiet compared to any passive pickup I've had. I can't imagine someone needing an improvement over EMGs as far as noise is considered. The noise floor with the EMGs is already in the -90dBs, which is excellent, no need to improve on that.
Such a bogus argument by Seymour Duncan IMO
JB_From_Hell
Jomo's Nimions
Re: SD Blackout vs. EMG 81/85
I think the same thing every time I see that "14db less noise" line in the Blackout ad. I'm sure that it's technically true, but properly installed EMGs are pretty much dead silent when you're not playing.
I think the same thing every time I see that "14db less noise" line in the Blackout ad. I'm sure that it's technically true, but properly installed EMGs are pretty much dead silent when you're not playing.
Diocletian
BrandNewGlossologist
Re: SD Blackout vs. EMG 81/85
What kind of band plays ONLY lead, never rythm?
What kind of band plays ONLY lead, never rythm?
Marshall_Abuser
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Re: SD Blackout vs. EMG 81/85
I play some rhythm in my band, of course, but at home, it's 100% leads, all the time. I'm a dedicated lead player.
I play some rhythm in my band, of course, but at home, it's 100% leads, all the time. I'm a dedicated lead player.
nemesis92
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Re: SD Blackout vs. EMG 81/85
yup... I had emg zack wylde set amd blackouts on 2 guitars....i was nervous about buying the blackouts but wen it came in put them in...then i compared them to the emgs on my other guitar and wow wat i difference...the blackout have such a fatter punch u in the face sound....I immidiatly sold my emg and only run blackouts....
which goes to say that u dont say anything about something u haven't tried...and emg users...i know how u guys are....everyone of my friends use emg... and wen i told them about blackouts that talked so much trash....thats okay of course...but they have never tried blackouts....and they dont want to....emg guys... be more open to trying things... u will be suprised!!!!!!
Ignorance is not a virtue!!!!!
yup... I had emg zack wylde set amd blackouts on 2 guitars....i was nervous about buying the blackouts but wen it came in put them in...then i compared them to the emgs on my other guitar and wow wat i difference...the blackout have such a fatter punch u in the face sound....I immidiatly sold my emg and only run blackouts....
which goes to say that u dont say anything about something u haven't tried...and emg users...i know how u guys are....everyone of my friends use emg... and wen i told them about blackouts that talked so much trash....thats okay of course...but they have never tried blackouts....and they dont want to....emg guys... be more open to trying things... u will be suprised!!!!!!
Ignorance is not a virtue!!!!!
Marshall_Abuser
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Re: SD Blackout vs. EMG 81/85
Glad you like your Blackouts.
I don't feel the need to even try the Blackouts, because my EMGs are SO GOOD and excellent for what I want...
Why fix something that isn't broken eh?
Maybe people like Blackouts better because they are DIFFERENT and they try to justify the $$$ spend? Just my 0.02$ worth...
Glad you like your Blackouts.
I don't feel the need to even try the Blackouts, because my EMGs are SO GOOD and excellent for what I want...
Why fix something that isn't broken eh?
Maybe people like Blackouts better because they are DIFFERENT and they try to justify the $$$ spend? Just my 0.02$ worth...
nemesis92
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Re: SD Blackout vs. EMG 81/85
u dont have to like them... just try them... then u can comment all u want....I was just like u.... I didn't use anything but emg's and made fun of seymour wen i heard about the blackouts.....but i sold my emgs and only run blackouts.....i was certainly suprised.....
maybe u will hate them...who knows....but u should just try them
u dont have to like them... just try them... then u can comment all u want....I was just like u.... I didn't use anything but emg's and made fun of seymour wen i heard about the blackouts.....but i sold my emgs and only run blackouts.....i was certainly suprised.....
maybe u will hate them...who knows....but u should just try them
krankguitarist
Krankitupologist
Re: SD Blackout vs. EMG 81/85
I'm as down for "open minded-ness" as anybody else, but if a bro's happy with his EMG's, then all is cool.
I'd just say, a bro should try them if he wants to comment on their quality. Otherwise, rock on with what ya got.
I'm as down for "open minded-ness" as anybody else, but if a bro's happy with his EMG's, then all is cool.
I'd just say, a bro should try them if he wants to comment on their quality. Otherwise, rock on with what ya got
.
Joelski
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Re: SD Blackout vs. EMG 81/85
Why the hell would someone come into a Blackouts thread on the SEYMOUR DUNCAN forums and argue that EMG's are better when the basis of their debate is hearsay? Sure, go to a store and play a couple of power chords prior to judging, or better yet, pretend you did so you can remain obstinate.
Why the hell would someone come into a Blackouts thread on the SEYMOUR DUNCAN forums and argue that EMG's are better when the basis of their debate is hearsay? Sure, go to a store and play a couple of power chords prior to judging, or better yet, pretend you did so you can remain obstinate.
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