SD really should make the 59/Jazz Hybrid a production PU

[Archer250]

I've been using a pair of custom-wound humbuckers for around a year now. They're hybrid coils. 42 AWG Plain Enamel one coil and Poly the other, around 7.4k neck and 8.5k bridge. Both have rough cast A2s in them.

I really like how there's more "life" than in pure Poly coils and more "glassy" smoothness than in pure PE coils.

I really think such a hybrid is indeed the best of both worlds and since the 59/custom is already a thing, might as well expand, right?

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[Blille]

Re: SD really should make the 59/Jazz Hybrid a production PU

I'd buy one. Or two. To get started.

 

[Techy Beccy]

Re: SD really should make the 59/Jazz Hybrid a production PU

Yeah! Id really like to try this!!

 

[beaubrummels]

Re: SD really should make the 59/Jazz Hybrid a production PU

I’d buy a set.

 

[ItsaBass]

Re: SD really should make the 59/Jazz Hybrid a production PU

I'd like to see them simply do a '59/C Hybrid neck model, using the '59 coil from the '59 neck. It wouldn't be any effectively different than a '59/Jazz neck, and having the names matching would make more sense in terms of marketing them, IMO. "'59/C Hybrid Neck and Bridge Set," as opposed to "'59/Custom Hybrid Bridge and Jazz/Custom Hybrid Neck Set."

 

[orpheo]

Re: SD really should make the 59/Jazz Hybrid a production PU

the 59/jazz hybrid is imho one of the best neck pickups there is. My lowdown:

59B/jazzB: great allround neck pickup. (a5, a2, a3, a4 work well in this, to hone in the final tone and voice)

59N/JazzN: glassier, cleaner, bit more chime. great, but not for everybody (a5, a2, a3, a4 work well in this, to hone in the final tone and voice)

JB/Fullshred: amazing bridge pickup. has so much balls, power, attack without losing the fluid feel of the JB. (a2, a5, a8: my fav is the a5 though, as it's the mag that comes with both pickups standard).

Pearly/Custom: the nastier, slightly hotter sibling of the 59/Custom (alnico 2, alnico 5 work great; the others don't seem to have the EQ to work as well as these)

59/Seth alnico 2: sweet, slightly dirty but so, so sweet and flutey


I tried to push at least the 59/jazz model to be a production model, but despite my best efforts, despite the vocal shouts on the SDUFG, they just refuse to make it. It's not a trademark of patent issue, it's an 'I just don't wanna friggin do it!!!!" issue.

 

[AlexR]

Re: SD really should make the 59/Jazz Hybrid a production PU

The Jazz/59 is perhaps the best tonal balance for the c/59.......or at least I should say that some form of hybrid is the best balance. I've tried production neck Duncans alongside a c/59 and also c/jazz, and the evenly wound tone of them just seems dull compared with the more lively tone of the hybrid bridge.

 

[SweetClyde99]

Re: SD really should make the 59/Jazz Hybrid a production PU

I second the JB/Fullshred hybrid. I knocked one together out of spare parts I had lying around and shoved it into an Epi LP I wasn’t really binding with. Great pickup.

Full disclosure, the JB is the Duncan Designed version, but it still sounds great. I used all the short hex screws in mine to try to keep the bass tighter. The guitar gets a lot more use now.

 

[Discharged]

Re: SD really should make the 59/Jazz Hybrid a production PU

I tried to push at least the 59/jazz model to be a production model, they just refuse to make it. It's not a trademark of patent issue, it's an 'I just don't wanna friggin do it!!!!" issue.

I've been advocating for this since 2007. It couldn't be done due to the patent DiMarzio had on it, I was told.

Time passed, the patent expired, so the child of SDFGU member Bach2Rock, aka '59/Custom came out and established itself as one of the best-sounding, all-around bridge p'ups in the SD production line.

But without that excuse, it finally became clear that's just a matter of not-wanna-do-it-ever.

To add insult to injury, all the reasonable people that actually talked with and/or heard the voices of the members either went away or got fired from the Co, as the Management simply couldn't be bothered to talk to mere mortals. So, be absolutely and completely sure your voice won't be heard again. Ever.

That's why I gave up and I advice you to do the same, orpheo. Unless you're a glutton for punishment, that is!

/Peter

 

[Masta' C]

Re: SD really should make the 59/Jazz Hybrid a production PU

Hey, we could always try starting a "FORUM PICKUP 2019" thread...see if the crickets notice, LOL

Maybe Mincer could make it a sticky temporarily...

 

[Discharged]

Re: SD really should make the 59/Jazz Hybrid a production PU

Hey, we could always try starting a "FORUM PICKUP 2019" thread...see if the crickets notice, LOL

Maybe Mincer could make it a sticky temporarily...

The "Forum p'up" concept died with the last failed attempt of a neck p'up matching the '59/Custom.

It's never, ever going to happen again.

Just have a look of how contemptious the whole process became with each forum p'up. A "design-by-comitee" venture, that only accomplished to get out the worst of almost every participant, that ended in an epic failure, as the prototype was designed for the full-bore metalhead with a 24-fretter instrument, where the '59/Custom's design goal is an organic, all-around, vintage-y tonefootprint, output-wise placed right in-between the '59 bridge and the Custom.

/Peter

 

[Mincer]

Re: SD really should make the 59/Jazz Hybrid a production PU

You can also suggest it here. This *does* go to the people that actually design new pickups. It has been there for years.

 

[Discharged]

Re: SD really should make the 59/Jazz Hybrid a production PU

This *does* go to the people that actually design new pickups. It has been there for years.

Yes, it has been there for years, alright.

I suspect that was created just to "keep the peace" in the forum, as it was created not long after the last "Forum p'up" fiasco.

However, in all of these years, nothing has ever come out from it. How come? Nobody ever had any good idea since 2015? Really?

It's a place where your ideas get buried. A virtual cemetery of ideas, if you ask me.

But if you could provide proof that I'm wrong, I'm open to stand corrected.

Well?

/Peter

 

[Mincer]

Re: SD really should make the 59/Jazz Hybrid a production PU

Kojak, you are right. Always right.

 

[OLDERBUDWISER]

Re: SD really should make the 59/Jazz Hybrid a production PU

Kojak, you are right. Always right.

Lot of anger, everywhere, man

 

[Ascension]

Re: SD really should make the 59/Jazz Hybrid a production PU

You can also suggest it here. This *does* go to the people that actually design new pickups. It has been there for years.

Thanks buddy. I just joined and put this in play. Now lets see who here will walk the walk and not just talk by backing me up and voting for this!!
Love the Hybrid but there is really not a good match for it in neck pickups. Right now have 2 in guitars and am using the Sentient in both but still does not have the harmonic complexity of the unbalanced coils that the hybrid does. A few on your forum have done 59 Jazz bridge coil hybrids with a lot of success. Many on your forum have asked for this pickup including myself even pushing a new forum only build for this pickup but so far you have not heard us.
Please consider this as a potential new build then as offering it with the hybrid as a full set.
Sincerely Richard Rutledge long time member Duncan Forum.

 

[Ascension]

Re: SD really should make the 59/Jazz Hybrid a production PU

Yes, it has been there for years, alright.

I suspect that was created just to "keep the peace" in the forum, as it was created not long after the last "Forum p'up" fiasco.

However, in all of these years, nothing has ever come out from it. How come? Nobody ever had any good idea since 2015? Really?

It's a place where your ideas get buried. A virtual cemetery of ideas, if you ask me.

But if you could provide proof that I'm wrong, I'm open to stand corrected.

Well?

/Peter

Challenge accepted see my last post above. Now join tha site and put up by backing me up or shut up!!

 

[Discharged]

Re: SD really should make the 59/Jazz Hybrid a production PU

Kojak, you are right. Always right.

Are you trying to be sarcastic here?

I stated my opinion, based on the perceived outcome, which's what I've seen (or NOT seen, for that matter) so far.

I don't work for the Co, you do. I don't have access to internal info, you do. Hence, I could be DEAD WRONG on this issue.

So Dave, please tell me. what is the case here? Am I wrong? Which of the new p'ups that came out since 2015 came out of the SDRL think tank that I missed the memo?

Please, let me know. I'm NOT trying to be right. Hell, I'd LOVE to be wrong about this!!!

So please, Dave. Let us know that spending our time participating here or in the SDRL site actually mean something.

Yours very truly,

/Peter (or Kojak, apparently)

 

[Discharged]

Re: SD really should make the 59/Jazz Hybrid a production PU

Challenge accepted

Yay!!!! Wait... what...?

Now join tha site and put up by backing me up or shut up!!

I have no idea what you mean or what you want me to do. Care to explain?

/Peter

 

[Mincer]

Re: SD really should make the 59/Jazz Hybrid a production PU

I am not sure why you are so frustrated here.

Being on the forum, in no way, secures a seat at the table for product development. If you want that, apply for a job. Design by committee gets lucky once in awhile, but is not the way to continually release new products by any company. You might want to join other forums on other company's websites, and see if that gets you a seat at the table with them, too.
You are also free to come out with your own designs, and when you do, come back and we will all make suggestions and complain about why you are not listening to us.

In the mean time, feel free to use the SDRL site, and use the number at the bottom of our home page to call and discuss new designs. I look forward to seeing the products Lt Kojak comes out with.