SD version of Gibson Dirty Fingers Pickup

[ivovasconcelos]

Hi Fellows,

What would be the Seymour Duncan equivalent of a Gibson Dirty Fingers?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Cheers,
Ivo

 

[Aceman]

Re: SD version of Gibson Dirty Fingers Pickup

There is no equivalent in the Duncan line that is anything like that.

An Invader has some qualities. Maybe A Dimebucker too, but less so. A "Dimevader" might be closer? Still not the same thing at all.
In DiMarzio world an X2N is sort of like it, but still a distinctly different thing.

The Dirty Fingers is a unique to Gibson style IMO. If that's what you want, get that.

PS: John Sykes IS Whitesnake!

 

[ivovasconcelos]

Re: SD version of Gibson Dirty Fingers Pickup

PS: John Sykes IS Whitesnake!

I couldn't disagree with this statement

His tone is the one I am looking after.

Do you have SD pickup suggestion for John Sykes 1987 tone?

Cheers,
Ivo

 

[Aceman]

Re: SD version of Gibson Dirty Fingers Pickup

Do you have SD pickup suggestion for John Sykes 1987 tone?

Yes - Gibson Dirty Fingers.

 

[Blackie13]

Re: SD version of Gibson Dirty Fingers Pickup

Sykes used a Kramer with a jb in 1987...

 

[idsnowdog]

Re: SD version of Gibson Dirty Fingers Pickup

The Dirty Fingers is its own animal. There are other high output pickups but none of them that I know are a clone of the original Dirty Fingers.

 

[Aceman]

Re: SD version of Gibson Dirty Fingers Pickup

Sykes used a Kramer with a jb in 1987...

So - you saw him actually record the album? And play live? And you say for 24/7 365 of 1987 he played a JB in a Kramer? Not his beloved Black Custom with Dirty Fingers? Must be someone else in those vids. Must be one hell of a JB wound by MJ.

:lmao:

 

[LLL]

Re: SD version of Gibson Dirty Fingers Pickup

Sykes' (another fave guitarist of mine) typical tone on the 1987 Whitesnake album is:

- His LPC with Dirty Fingers
- Mesa Boogie MkIII Coliseums (most likely EVM 12L speakers)
- quad tracked; by doing a stereo rig with a little modulation & hair of delay (Lexicon PCM41 to 2x Boogies), recorded twice (that's 2x left and 2x right channel tracks)

For the rhythm on Still of the Night, I used my 1978 Black Les Paul Custom, (Sykes said). At that time, I had a Dirty Fingers pickup in the bridge. I plugged in two Mesa/Boogie Coliseum - which are great-sounding amps. I ran the gain at about 4, so the tone was heavy but clear [...] and I tracked in stereo with a slight delay between the two sides. Then I doubled the part.

He also used an old vintage Strat for clean tones...

Here's my super-reasonable takes on the tone utilizing facsimilies of above gear and similar quad tracked recording process:

 

[ItsaBass]

Re: SD version of Gibson Dirty Fingers Pickup

The closest you'll get to a Dirty Fingers without getting a Dirty Fingers will be a 500T. The main difference between the two is that one is a double screw pickup and the other is standard screw/slug type. As such, the Dirty Fingers tends to be a little leaner and more clear sounding.

With the installation of a non-magnetic threaded keeper bar, you can convert a 500T to double screw without introducing any magnetic effects from the added keeper bar. Another option is to fill the holes with plastic plugs, and then drill and tap them for screws. That way you don't need to add a keeper bar at all, or even disassemble the pickup. You don't even really need the [fairly specialized] 5-32 tap. If you know what you're doing, you can use the screw pole pieces as taps. The plug and drill method is preferable IMO. Make sure to use plastic rod stock sections that are a little shorter than the bobbin, as you want to be able to recess the screws a little bit into the bobbin.

 

[Cynical]

Re: SD version of Gibson Dirty Fingers Pickup

In terms of construction, the closest SD pup to the Dirty Fingers is the Black Winter. I can't tell you how similar it is in practice, though, since I've never played a DF.

 

[EDX]

Re: SD version of Gibson Dirty Fingers Pickup

as someone who went from a dirty fingers to a dimebucker, the dirty fingers is a very unique animal, it is lower output and has a cleaner texture than most duncan offerings in that range, the closest thing may indeed be the black winter, but still expect the texture to differ quite some.

 

[Cdwillis]

Re: SD version of Gibson Dirty Fingers Pickup

If you want a Dirty Fingers, get the Dirty Fingers.

 

[ivovasconcelos]

Re: SD version of Gibson Dirty Fingers Pickup

I've got my Dirty Fingers!
I checked the Gibson website for it and it seems that they don't sell it anymore.
But I've found an old stock with a dealer.

Now I just need to find a proper 70s Black Custom

Thank you guys!

 

[ivovasconcelos]

Re: SD version of Gibson Dirty Fingers Pickup

Great Sounds @LLL

 

[Aceman]

Re: SD version of Gibson Dirty Fingers Pickup

Sykes LP is a Maple neck most likely. That may be key if you are really tone hunting.

 

[ivovasconcelos]

Re: SD version of Gibson Dirty Fingers Pickup

Sykes LP is a Maple neck most likely. That may be key if you are really tone hunting.

Thank you Aceman!

 

[donaldr]

Re: SD version of Gibson Dirty Fingers Pickup

Sykes LP is a Maple neck most likely. That may be key if you are really tone hunting.

My Gibson Les Paul LPJ has a maple neck (regular mahogany body with maple top) and sounds awesome. You can get one for cheap, but you'll have to shop a bit to find a good resonating one.